Difference between revisions of "Common misconceptions about atomically precise manufacturing"
(→Thermodynamics prevents one from having every atom at the place we want it - wrong for practical scales: Moved content to page: Thermodynamics) |
(→Atoms can't be placed individually because of "fat and sticky fingers" - sticky is actually good fat is just untrue for the tips: added links to related main articles) |
||
Line 142: | Line 142: | ||
Disproved by basic experimental and detailed theoretical work. See: [[Mechanosynthesis]]. It may get a bit more challenging when the [[mechanosynthesis of chain molecules|mechanosynthesis of ''complex'' chain molecules]] is attempted. | Disproved by basic experimental and detailed theoretical work. See: [[Mechanosynthesis]]. It may get a bit more challenging when the [[mechanosynthesis of chain molecules|mechanosynthesis of ''complex'' chain molecules]] is attempted. | ||
Which is not a requirement for [[nanofactory|gem-gum-factories]]. | Which is not a requirement for [[nanofactory|gem-gum-factories]]. | ||
+ | |||
+ | See main articles: "[[Fat finger problem]]" and "[[Sticky finger problem]]". | ||
= One can't make soft materials from diamond - wrong = | = One can't make soft materials from diamond - wrong = |
Revision as of 20:04, 25 October 2017
APM is a very novel area of research and development that dives into fields of knowledge that are yet pretty alien for most people including many "nanotechnology" experts. When encountering a new network of knowledge one usually tries to apply existing knowledge to judge statements and claims - what else can one do. Without deeper understanding of the relationships this can lead people into trapdoors. Some are so bad that almost everyone falls in. This page is guide around those trapdoors.
Contents
- 1 It's called "nanotechnology" - not anymore
- 2 Nature does it differently thus advanced APM must be flawed. – Faulty reasoning.
- 3 Nanobots - in most cases a very flawed image
- 4 Almost everything will be buildable - often misunderstood
- 5 Flawed critics about the fundamentals
- 5.1 Macro-scale style machinery isn't suitable for the quantum world one needs something more exotic instead - wrong
- 5.2 Thermodynamics prevents one from having every atom at the place we want it - wrong for practical scales
- 5.3 Advanced APM systems are a "castle in the sky" with no way to built them - not quite
- 5.4 Atoms can't be placed individually because of "fat and sticky fingers" - sticky is actually good fat is just untrue for the tips
- 6 One can't make soft materials from diamond - wrong
- 7 Minor ones
It's called "nanotechnology" - not anymore
The term "nanotechnology" is only referring to a size range and nothing more thus it can encompass a very wide range of technologies. The corresponding word "macrotechnology" is not in wide usage exactly because referring to size alone can be much to general and unspecific to be of use. In contrast to the term "macrotechnology" the term "nanotechnology" though historically lead to problematic political tensions.
With the growing number of very different technologies (and myths) gathering under the umbrella of "nanotechnology" grossly incorrect cross-associations between these technologies started to emerge in media and public perception. This caused problems. The discontent at the mainstream side grew so high that "nanotechnology" at some point was actively redefined such that controlled manipulation single atoms (core of APM) where actively excluded from "nanotechnology" (atoms are a bit smaller than a nanometer).
To make misassociations of the new "conventional nanotechnology" with the technology this wiki covers less likely the new term atomically precise manufacturing (APM) was introduced to replace older terms that carry the term "nanotechnology" in their name. Such as the term "molecular nanotechnology".
There are huge differences between APM and the new narrowed down APM excluding "nanotechnology". Here's just one: A big part of work in "nanotechnology" is done on researching interesting things that are on the verge of falling apart. Atomically precise manufacturing (APM) is mostly focused on the most stable structures which is pretty much the opposite.
Some sub-concepts of APM (e.g. nanobots) are not exactly wrongly associated with APM but are still overproportionally over-represented in current mainstream media partly because they carry the "nano-" prefix. (See: The usual suspects)
Nature does it differently thus advanced APM must be flawed. – Faulty reasoning.
See main article: "Nature does it differently".
Nanobots - in most cases a very flawed image
Associated traits that have nothing to do with advanced productive APM systems:
- swarms
- living & evolving
- insatiable, metabolize just about anything
- super dangerous - the accident is unavoidable and cataclysmic
APM is like swarms of "nanobots" - wrong
The main body of AP systems and products will be bulk materials produced by nanofactories. Loose autonomous units for productive purposes or only for applicative purposes (where loose means unconnected & floating in air or water or "crawling" on surfaces applicable e.g. in form of sprays) are unpractical in relation to nanofactories.
All kinds of loose units out of diamond like materials may pose environmental problems since spill of non-dissolving non-rotting material into the biosphere can have detrimental effects on many organisms for a long period of time.
Loose units should thus be used only in limited ways by non rouge actors where there are no other options. One such case are medical purposes. They are somewhat of an exception. Their bio-compatible products don't resemble the productive units themselves thus they can be made devoid of any self replication capability.
Pretty advanced APM systems (way beyond basic advanced APM systems) make swarms of loose productive units undeniable possible but they are over- and most often misrepresented in current media. SciFi is regularly painting unrealistic pictures of the classic dystopia.
Those "nanobots" can "eat" just about anything - wrong
Main article: atomically precise disassembly
It is often thought that the capability of taking things apart atom by atom would become available just when one starts to be able to put things together atom by atom. This is far from true. Taking things apart atom by atom is a much harder problem in many cases. Beside other factors the inability to consume just about anything harshly limits the aforementioned grey goo scenario.
No disassembly.
Related
Almost everything will be buildable - often misunderstood
It is often thought that APM is supposed to be able to produce almost anything (often formulated: all allowed structures permissible by physical law) including e.g. food, wood, plastics and metal parts but this is surely not the case.
The range of materials and structures targeted actually lies in a very narrow range (see: "mechanosynthesis"-page).
The magic lies in the diamondoid metamaterials that emulate properties above the atomic level.
This is not to say it will be impossible for all times to assemble materials (or rather compounds) lying outside the narrow set of now targeted materials. When the technology will have been around for quite a while very advanced extensions may be able to do this but this is way beyond the scope of any current day APM attainment project because it is beyond the horizon of useful exploratory engineering.
No food from gem-gum factories
Future gem-gum factories are not in any way intended to be usable for food production. Structures out of solvated weakly linked non stiff proteins and lipid layers are a good example of "anti-diamondoid" materials. Specialized devices will be capable of some limited form of synthesis of food.
Attempting to create genetic twin tissue (avoiding the need for a complete scan) has the problem that information extraction from DNA to a spacial (not only typological) atom and molecule configuration is not straightforward to say the least. There's not only the forward protein folding problem but also the yet unsolved riddle how body shape at all scales is encoded.
Why an perfect 1:1 copy of a steak is and will stay impossible
Attempting to create exact copies down to positional atomic presicion of an original tissue at this point seems ridiculously complex. Some kind of very advanced scan (atomically precise disassembly) of the original would be needed to be performed in advance. Trying to compress quasi-random atom configurations data hierarchically like in diamondoid APM systems would probably lead to strange unnatural compression artifacts. The need to produce everything in a frozen state (ice crystals) might be a hard problem but one of the most minute ones.
Tasty "meta-food" may be creatable (given sufficient design effort in chain molecule mechanosynthesis capabilities)
Creating something edible by mixing pure synthesizes molecules together (quite a lot of sloppy molecules need to be synthesizable thus not something to expect early on) together would produce something like an advanced nourishment dough. One may be able to fake familiar food for the human senses or make something else heterogeneous and tasty but it's questionable whether we really desire to fool ourselves. At some ends deficiencies through lopsided nutrition may arise while at other ends food might get a lot healthier. A mixed nutrition with natural food will probably be best.
Competing with cheap potatoes is hard
Note: Plants are already self replicating and thus cheap. Most people just don't grow all of the plants they consume because they need space, sun, soil, and often industrial post processing. Advanced (technical) APM will bring all the other stuff to the same or lower price level per mass. Including means for easier plant breeding.
To be competitive with the cheap self replicating food that we eat today tissue construction via advanced mechanosynthetic means (e.g. a pie like this hoax [1]) must be quite a bit faster than biological machinery. This may be expectable but at this point the highly diverse tool-tip chemistry at cryogenic temperatures and at the threshold of stability needed poses a prohibitively high barrier. That is barely any exploratory engineering can be applied here. Further some kind of hierarchical assembly that completely replaces the natural system would be needed.
Other sources of synthetic food
Also other technology branches (bio-nanotechnology ...) unrelated to APM may be able to produce edible tissues before of after we attain advanced APM capabilities.
Flawed critics about the fundamentals
Macro-scale style machinery isn't suitable for the quantum world one needs something more exotic instead - wrong
Via a very simple estimation it turns out that nanomechanics is actually barely mechanical quantum-mechanics. Baffling? The fact that quantum-mechanics is called quantum-mechanics is just a somewhat unlucky result of science history. Basically mechanics was generalized to the point where it also encompasses the behavior of electrons thus to the point where it encompasses what is in eveready language considered electronics. And electronics are pretty quantum mechanical at the nanoscale. Of course certain nanomechanic systems can be made quantum mechanical in behavior if the conditions are made extreme enough.
Actually under conditions expectable in advanced atomically precise production devices nanomechanics is pretty classical in behavior. Since the objective is to transport stuff from A to B in a controlled manner just like in makrotechnology using makro-style-machinery (with some minor tweaks) makes perfectly sense and has even advantages such as superlubrication and dissipation sharing.
Thermodynamics prevents one from having every atom at the place we want it - wrong for practical scales
See main article: "Thermodynamics".
Advanced APM systems are a "castle in the sky" with no way to built them - not quite
It has often be perceived that diamondoid molecular elements can only be synthesized by stiff tools made that themselves are made from diamondoid molecular elements. The incremental path avoids circular dependencies by continuously changing the method of assembly from self assembly to stereotactic control. (Radical Abundance - page 190)
The direct path tries to use bigger already stiff but not quite atomically precise slabs of material to build stiff atomically precise structures (e.g. in MEMS-AFMs). This is not fundamentally impossible but a much steeper slope judging from the progress rates.
Atoms can't be placed individually because of "fat and sticky fingers" - sticky is actually good fat is just untrue for the tips
Disproved by basic experimental and detailed theoretical work. See: Mechanosynthesis. It may get a bit more challenging when the mechanosynthesis of complex chain molecules is attempted. Which is not a requirement for gem-gum-factories.
See main articles: "Fat finger problem" and "Sticky finger problem".
One can't make soft materials from diamond - wrong
See: "emulated elasticity" for why this is not true.
Minor ones
Diamond has a much lower density than silicon - wrong
Quite the opposite actually - diamond is pretty heavy for its volume:
- Diamond: 3.5–3.53 g/cm3
- "(Diamond+Silicon)/2" ~= Moissanite: 3.218–3.22 g/cm3 (heavier than the average density)
- Silicon: 2.3290 g/cm3
- Quartz: 2.65 g/cm3 (denser than silicon although there are voids and lighter oxygen interspersed - how??)