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[[File:APM-EarlyDevelopmentPaths.jpg|500px|thumb|right|Possible map for the incremental path.]] | [[File:APM-EarlyDevelopmentPaths.jpg|500px|thumb|right|Possible map for the incremental path.]] | ||
− | It would be nice if we could | + | It would be nice if we could reach the [[technology levels|technological skill level]] of more advanced materials as soon as possible. In other words: |
− | Climbing the [[technology levels]] as soon as possible | + | * Climbing the [[technology levels]] as soon as possible or. <br> |
− | + | * Moving straight along the left axis if the diagram. <br> | |
− | But there is an obstruction. <br> | + | |
+ | But there is an troublesome obstruction / '''blockade'''. <br> | ||
The "Positional assembly redundancy blockade". <br> | The "Positional assembly redundancy blockade". <br> | ||
− | + | The stars annotated with "redundant" in the diagram. | |
+ | |||
+ | * When sticking to [[bottom up positional assembly]] <br>then there is the hard barrier of the [[fat finger problem]]. | ||
+ | * When going for [[top down positional assembly]] <br>then there are the difficulties with [[SPM]] technology. | ||
+ | |||
+ | In both cases one competes with [[self-assembly]] potentially solving the same problem <br> | ||
+ | (of getting to more advanced, more [[stiffness|stiff]] materials ASAP) <br> | ||
+ | potentially faster and easier. | ||
+ | Thus the '''"redundancy"''' in the name. | ||
= Relation to pathways = | = Relation to pathways = | ||
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Within the [[incremental path]] there is a "positional assembly redundancy blockade" though. | Within the [[incremental path]] there is a "positional assembly redundancy blockade" though. | ||
− | Meaning | + | Meaning a specific sub-area in the space of possible technological evolutions where |
all what [[positional assembly]] could do can be done with [[self assembly]] just as easy if not much easier. | all what [[positional assembly]] could do can be done with [[self assembly]] just as easy if not much easier. | ||
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'''Q:''' So what's the advantage of positional assembly then? <br> | '''Q:''' So what's the advantage of positional assembly then? <br> | ||
− | '''A:''' The main reason we want to go for positional assembly so hard is that there are higher performance materials ([[gemstone]]s) that just simply cannot encode the target position of their constitute parts in their surface. | + | '''A:''' The main reason we want to go for positional assembly so hard is that there are higher performance materials ([[gemstone]]s and [[small stiff molecule building blocks]]) that just simply cannot encode the target position of their constitute parts in the the surface of their constitute parts since the surface is too small. |
− | = Relation = | + | In the extreme: One cannot carve the "surface of an atom" to be shape complementary to an other atom. <br> |
+ | All atoms of the same element are exactly identical and indistinguishable. <br> | ||
+ | <small>Overlooking isotopes which is irrelevant for chemical surface properties.</small> | ||
+ | |||
+ | = Relation of the "positional assembly blockade" to various development path approaches = | ||
{{wikitodo|review this section - feels like there are some mix-ups in there}} | {{wikitodo|review this section - feels like there are some mix-ups in there}} | ||
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== [[Bottom up positional assembly]] == | == [[Bottom up positional assembly]] == | ||
− | + | '''Note the recurring pattern:''' <br> | |
− | + | Scale [[self-assembly]] some more till some sort of positional assembly becomes possible that <br> | |
− | + | can do something that self assembly absolutely cannot do or has a very hard time with. | |
+ | |||
+ | Basically the approaches differ in the size of the [[positional assembly kinematic loop]] <br> | ||
+ | at the time when positional assembly finally arrives. From big to small: | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''The [[robo approach]]:''' <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | By not switching to positional assembly till <br> | ||
+ | – selfassembly skills are scaled up quite a lot and thus <br> | ||
+ | – [[thermally driven self-assembly]] no longer works well since parts become too big <br> | ||
+ | it evades the redundancy blockade the most, making a really wide detour around the blockade. | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''The [[printer approach]]:''' <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | By not switching to positional assembly till <br> | ||
+ | – 3DOF bottom up positional assembly becomes reasonably possible and thus <br> | ||
+ | – non-selfassemblable superior materials become accessible as the target for this positional assembly<br> | ||
+ | it evades the blockade too, but more minimalistically than the [[robo approach]]. | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''The [[catalysis construction kit approach]]:''' <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | – If there is some allosteric programmability or <br> | ||
+ | – if there is some energy transfer via mechanical motion from fuel molecules to reaction sites (disputed) <br> | ||
+ | then (stretching it quite a bit) one could consider this a smallest possible seed of bottom up positional assembly. (Related: [[Kinematic loop]]) <br> | ||
+ | Especially if ribosome like chain molecule synthesis capabilities become present. <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | While larger blocks may be modular and composable, <br> | ||
+ | functionality carried by the block for smaller scale catalysis is not necessarily so. <br> | ||
+ | Basically the infamous [[fat finger problem]] applies here. | ||
+ | |||
+ | By attempting to right away switch to positional assembly of non-selfassemblable superior materials <br> | ||
+ | (catalysis of catabolic/constructive bond forming reactions) one cannot expect much more capability than that. | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''Generally:''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[Bottom up positional assembly]] of non-self assemblable materials just does not really work well as long as <br> | ||
+ | self assembly capabilities have not been scaled up sufficciently. One runs into the the infamous [[fat finger problem]]. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[Bottom up positional assembly]] of self-assemblable materials is redundant with the very same means of self-assembly of these materials. That is: <br> | ||
+ | If we manage to self assemble a system capable of positionally assemblying the same system, <br> | ||
+ | what is the point in positionally assembling the system then? <br> | ||
+ | So while eventually becoming possible, such capabilities likely will be of limited use. <br> | ||
+ | Except farther out maybe. See [[Mechanosynthesis of biodegradables]] and ... | ||
== [[Top down positional assembly]] == | == [[Top down positional assembly]] == | ||
− | + | '''The [[robo approach]]:''' | |
− | + | ||
− | * | + | From the other side here. <br> |
+ | MEMS gripper manipulation of very very big self-assemblies. <br> | ||
+ | This is again evading the blockade by wide margin. <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''The [[folded-foldamer pushing approach]]:''' <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | This is about: <br> | ||
+ | – using sturdier kinds of [[foldamer]]s (like e.g. stiff high base-geometry [[de-novo proteins]]) as building blocks and <br> | ||
+ | – assembling them by means of [[scanning probe microscopy]] (SPM). | ||
+ | |||
+ | ''Self-assembly is an existing very hard to compete against alternative here'' so <br> | ||
+ | this approaches viability depends on how it fairs against that. | ||
+ | |||
+ | This competition is the symptom of running hard into the <br> | ||
+ | "Positional assembly redundancy blockade". | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''The [[direct path]]:''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | As mentioned in the intro this would entirely leapfrog the barrier. <br> | ||
+ | As self-assembly is neither necessary nor useful when strongly sticking to this pathway. | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Misc notes == | ||
+ | |||
+ | In the diagram note that here is a window between | ||
+ | * [[positional assembly redundancy blockade]] and | ||
+ | * [[thermal driven selfassembly diffusion speed slowdown blockade]] | ||
+ | Successful development pathways will likely pass somewhere through that window. | ||
== Related == | == Related == | ||
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* [[Positional assembly]] | * [[Positional assembly]] | ||
* [[Self-assembly]] | * [[Self-assembly]] | ||
+ | * [[Thermal driven selfassembly diffusion speed slowdown blockade]] | ||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | * '''[[Positional assembly kinematic loop]]''' |
Latest revision as of 18:37, 17 July 2024
It would be nice if we could reach the technological skill level of more advanced materials as soon as possible. In other words:
- Climbing the technology levels as soon as possible or.
- Moving straight along the left axis if the diagram.
But there is an troublesome obstruction / blockade.
The "Positional assembly redundancy blockade".
The stars annotated with "redundant" in the diagram.
- When sticking to bottom up positional assembly
then there is the hard barrier of the fat finger problem. - When going for top down positional assembly
then there are the difficulties with SPM technology.
In both cases one competes with self-assembly potentially solving the same problem
(of getting to more advanced, more stiff materials ASAP)
potentially faster and easier.
Thus the "redundancy" in the name.
Contents
Relation to pathways
Direct path - no such blockade
One of course can try the direct path, which has it's severe challenges.
But also it has it's merits since there is no other way to create such advanced material right away other than positional assembly. The direct path leapfrogs the "positional assembly redundancy blockade"
Incremental path - the bockade is present
Within the incremental path there is a "positional assembly redundancy blockade" though. Meaning a specific sub-area in the space of possible technological evolutions where all what positional assembly could do can be done with self assembly just as easy if not much easier.
Q: When is one running into the positional assembly redundancy blockade?
A: When trying to do positional assembly right away with still small pre-self-assembled / pre-self-folded building blocks.
Q: Why is one running into the positional assembly redundancy blockade then?
A: Because such small pre-selfassembled stuctures are well capable of encoding their target position in their own surface structure. As such all assembly that can be done with positional assembly can be done with self-assembly too. Just easier.
Q: So what's the advantage of positional assembly then?
A: The main reason we want to go for positional assembly so hard is that there are higher performance materials (gemstones and small stiff molecule building blocks) that just simply cannot encode the target position of their constitute parts in the the surface of their constitute parts since the surface is too small.
In the extreme: One cannot carve the "surface of an atom" to be shape complementary to an other atom.
All atoms of the same element are exactly identical and indistinguishable.
Overlooking isotopes which is irrelevant for chemical surface properties.
Relation of the "positional assembly blockade" to various development path approaches
(wiki-TODO: review this section - feels like there are some mix-ups in there)
Bottom up positional assembly
Note the recurring pattern:
Scale self-assembly some more till some sort of positional assembly becomes possible that
can do something that self assembly absolutely cannot do or has a very hard time with.
Basically the approaches differ in the size of the positional assembly kinematic loop
at the time when positional assembly finally arrives. From big to small:
The robo approach:
By not switching to positional assembly till
– selfassembly skills are scaled up quite a lot and thus
– thermally driven self-assembly no longer works well since parts become too big
it evades the redundancy blockade the most, making a really wide detour around the blockade.
The printer approach:
By not switching to positional assembly till
– 3DOF bottom up positional assembly becomes reasonably possible and thus
– non-selfassemblable superior materials become accessible as the target for this positional assembly
it evades the blockade too, but more minimalistically than the robo approach.
The catalysis construction kit approach:
– If there is some allosteric programmability or
– if there is some energy transfer via mechanical motion from fuel molecules to reaction sites (disputed)
then (stretching it quite a bit) one could consider this a smallest possible seed of bottom up positional assembly. (Related: Kinematic loop)
Especially if ribosome like chain molecule synthesis capabilities become present.
While larger blocks may be modular and composable,
functionality carried by the block for smaller scale catalysis is not necessarily so.
Basically the infamous fat finger problem applies here.
By attempting to right away switch to positional assembly of non-selfassemblable superior materials
(catalysis of catabolic/constructive bond forming reactions) one cannot expect much more capability than that.
Generally:
Bottom up positional assembly of non-self assemblable materials just does not really work well as long as
self assembly capabilities have not been scaled up sufficciently. One runs into the the infamous fat finger problem.
Bottom up positional assembly of self-assemblable materials is redundant with the very same means of self-assembly of these materials. That is:
If we manage to self assemble a system capable of positionally assemblying the same system,
what is the point in positionally assembling the system then?
So while eventually becoming possible, such capabilities likely will be of limited use.
Except farther out maybe. See Mechanosynthesis of biodegradables and ...
Top down positional assembly
The robo approach:
From the other side here.
MEMS gripper manipulation of very very big self-assemblies.
This is again evading the blockade by wide margin.
The folded-foldamer pushing approach:
This is about:
– using sturdier kinds of foldamers (like e.g. stiff high base-geometry de-novo proteins) as building blocks and
– assembling them by means of scanning probe microscopy (SPM).
Self-assembly is an existing very hard to compete against alternative here so
this approaches viability depends on how it fairs against that.
This competition is the symptom of running hard into the
"Positional assembly redundancy blockade".
The direct path:
As mentioned in the intro this would entirely leapfrog the barrier.
As self-assembly is neither necessary nor useful when strongly sticking to this pathway.
Misc notes
In the diagram note that here is a window between
- positional assembly redundancy blockade and
- thermal driven selfassembly diffusion speed slowdown blockade
Successful development pathways will likely pass somewhere through that window.