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The objection is to create a nice place for humans to live.
 
The objection is to create a nice place for humans to live.
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=== basic housing ===
  
 
First a nanofactory (e.g. of the size of a sugar cube) is sent to Venus.
 
First a nanofactory (e.g. of the size of a sugar cube) is sent to Venus.
 
There a durable balloon is created with a semitransparent diamond solar foil on top that leaves through enough light for plants to grow.
 
There a durable balloon is created with a semitransparent diamond solar foil on top that leaves through enough light for plants to grow.
 
The balloon further needs an "atmospheric converter unit" ([[air using micro ships]]) that has a number of functions. It creates among other thing breathable air. The balloon must be inflated wile being built to keep afloat.
 
The balloon further needs an "atmospheric converter unit" ([[air using micro ships]]) that has a number of functions. It creates among other thing breathable air. The balloon must be inflated wile being built to keep afloat.
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=== soil ===
  
 
Creating earth like soil with humic substances such that plants can grow in a natural way takes a lot longer then the employment of such a balloon.
 
Creating earth like soil with humic substances such that plants can grow in a natural way takes a lot longer then the employment of such a balloon.
 
One could start with hydroponic cultures and compose the dead plants. At that time humans may be present or may not. A small piece of earth soil may be usable to introduce a rich set of microorganisms.
 
One could start with hydroponic cultures and compose the dead plants. At that time humans may be present or may not. A small piece of earth soil may be usable to introduce a rich set of microorganisms.
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It should be rather easy to design small balloons but to create an earth like landscape a bigger free area and some soil depth is probably desired.
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For an average soil depth of half a meter a balloon with around one kilometer height is needed to compensate for the weight. (Put that in relation to the floating height of ~ 57km for visualization)
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At this size one needs to consider the wind speed gradient in the atmosphere which is around 10m/s per 1km. One doesn't want the balloon to start rolling like a barrel. This may be a difficult problem.
  
 
== Atmosperic converter unit ==
 
== Atmosperic converter unit ==

Revision as of 16:20, 27 February 2015

If one does not insist to go down to the solid surface (500°C 90bar)
Venus is actually a nice place for humans to colonize (52.5km 37°C 660mbar).
And it will be rather easy with nanofactories since Venus' atmosphere is is essentially an ocean of building material bathed in intense sunlight.

Breathable air and nitrogen are effective lifting gasses in the dense carbon dioxide atmosphere. Comparison of molecular weights: nitrogen 28, oxygen 32, carbon dioxide 44

Atmosphere

The atmosphere is not your foe its your friend. She ..

  • .. provides building material in optimal standardized form
  • .. makes the scarce hydrogen better available (sulfuric acid rain is a natural hydrogen concentrator process)
  • .. provides radiation protection (except UV)
  • .. provides protection against micrometeorites
  • .. makes street infrastructure unnecessary
  • .. provides an environment with nearly constant temperature
  • .. to a degree protects from volcanism on the ground

Colonisation - (conceptual)

The objection is to create a nice place for humans to live.

basic housing

First a nanofactory (e.g. of the size of a sugar cube) is sent to Venus. There a durable balloon is created with a semitransparent diamond solar foil on top that leaves through enough light for plants to grow. The balloon further needs an "atmospheric converter unit" (air using micro ships) that has a number of functions. It creates among other thing breathable air. The balloon must be inflated wile being built to keep afloat.

soil

Creating earth like soil with humic substances such that plants can grow in a natural way takes a lot longer then the employment of such a balloon. One could start with hydroponic cultures and compose the dead plants. At that time humans may be present or may not. A small piece of earth soil may be usable to introduce a rich set of microorganisms.

It should be rather easy to design small balloons but to create an earth like landscape a bigger free area and some soil depth is probably desired. For an average soil depth of half a meter a balloon with around one kilometer height is needed to compensate for the weight. (Put that in relation to the floating height of ~ 57km for visualization)

At this size one needs to consider the wind speed gradient in the atmosphere which is around 10m/s per 1km. One doesn't want the balloon to start rolling like a barrel. This may be a difficult problem.

Atmosperic converter unit

  • filters nitrogen from the atmosphere
  • captures sulfuric acid rain which concentrates the rare hydrogen [Todo: at which heights is sulfuric acid rain present]
  • sulfuric acid → hydrogen + sulfur dioxide
  • carbon dioxide + hydrogen -> ethyne + oxygen

Because of the reproduction hexagon it may make sense to keep it separate from the nanofactory.

Possible threats

Lightning

Some kind of lightning arrester system needs to be devised.

Wing gusts (danger of toppling over)

Since there are no obstacles high up in the atmosphere on a small scale differences in relative airspeed should be negligible. On a bigger scale this might become an issue '''data needed'''.

Fires

Building a thin walled carbon balloon filled with oxygen is basically asking for fire. To mend this problem one can compartmentalize bigger balloons and fill the uninhabited parts with nitrogen.

An other approach is to use silicon carbide as a building material which may self protect against fire by building glass. For silicon one would need to mine the surface though. To get rid of the excess oxygen from the silicates (releasing it to the atmosphere might get dangerous after a very long period of such pollution) one needs to use iron. The place where one can get unoxidised iron for sure is the planets core. (See: deep drilling)


A closed material "cycle" can be conceived that protects against fire even if atmosphere gets really crowded.

  • carbon dioxide + silicate stone → silicon carbide + oxygen
  • oxygen + iron → iron oxides
  • sulfur dioxide + iron → pyrite + iron oxides
  • sulfuric acid + oxygen → hydrogen + sulfur dioxide