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| − | This page is not going to tackle vague concepts like "consciousness" "free will" or "the soul" there | + | This page is '''not''' going to tackle vague concepts like <br> |
| + | "consciousness", "free will", or "the soul" <br> | ||
| + | there are lots and lots of places on the net which discuss those. <br> | ||
| + | Instead this page is going to describe two rather unknown concepts: <br> | ||
* accessibility of perception threads | * accessibility of perception threads | ||
* chance for an alternate retry | * chance for an alternate retry | ||
| − | Those may be a little more amenable to formalization - or not. Any experienceable practical use of these concepts is probably not to expect. Its just about a science based philosophic belief. | + | Those may be a little more amenable to formalization - or not. <br> |
| − | Adopting these beliefs and acting according to them may make you feel that you are doing the right thing - or not. | + | Any experienceable practical use of these concepts is probably not to expect. <br> |
| + | Its just about a science based philosophic belief. <br> | ||
| + | Adopting these beliefs and acting according to them may make you feel that you are doing the right thing - or not. <br> | ||
This is going to go into the deepest abysses - so be prepared. | This is going to go into the deepest abysses - so be prepared. | ||
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['''todo:''' work in progress] | ['''todo:''' work in progress] | ||
| − | * analogy: bundle of wool strands where each consists out of a bundle of finer strands - big bang - continuity of experienced time - recurrence theorem | + | * analogy: bundle of wool strands where each consists out of a bundle of finer strands (see: [[The fractal braided river of fate]]) - big bang - continuity of experienced time - recurrence theorem |
* chaos - no direction of time - no sentien beings - time shrinking to zero - anthropic principle | * chaos - no direction of time - no sentien beings - time shrinking to zero - anthropic principle | ||
| + | * [[Big bang as spontaneous demixing event]] | ||
= Main topics = | = Main topics = | ||
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* ['''todo:'''] Research about how much randomness our biological human brain extracts (e.g. from thermal motions) and how much our thoughts get randomized by that. (btw: there is no form of quantum computation in the human brain - it is way to hot for that) | * ['''todo:'''] Research about how much randomness our biological human brain extracts (e.g. from thermal motions) and how much our thoughts get randomized by that. (btw: there is no form of quantum computation in the human brain - it is way to hot for that) | ||
* Including at least that amount randomness into artificial brain emulations. | * Including at least that amount randomness into artificial brain emulations. | ||
| − | * use TRNGs shun PRNGs | + | * use TRNGs shun [[Pseudo random number generators|PRNGs]] |
= Related = | = Related = | ||
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* oversimplification - einstein and the moon | * oversimplification - einstein and the moon | ||
* everyone sees a different future | * everyone sees a different future | ||
| + | * [[Big bang as spontaneous demixing event]] | ||
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* randomness [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness (leave to wikipedia)] | * randomness [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness (leave to wikipedia)] | ||
* many worlds interpretation [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation (leave to wikipedia)] | * many worlds interpretation [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation (leave to wikipedia)] | ||
| + | * no quantum computation in the brain - quantum mysticism [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism (leave to wikipedia)] | ||
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* randomness is relative - the more knowledge you have the less random something becomes | * randomness is relative - the more knowledge you have the less random something becomes | ||
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* further keywords: gödel - chaitins omega - math is full of holes - infinite number of axioms - axioms by practicabbility - human research as open systems - VR - the amount of entropy we got at big bang | * further keywords: gödel - chaitins omega - math is full of holes - infinite number of axioms - axioms by practicabbility - human research as open systems - VR - the amount of entropy we got at big bang | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:59, 15 October 2023
Template:Highly personal opinion
Template:Slightly offtopic
Contents
Introduction
This page is not going to tackle vague concepts like
"consciousness", "free will", or "the soul"
there are lots and lots of places on the net which discuss those.
Instead this page is going to describe two rather unknown concepts:
- accessibility of perception threads
- chance for an alternate retry
Those may be a little more amenable to formalization - or not.
Any experienceable practical use of these concepts is probably not to expect.
Its just about a science based philosophic belief.
Adopting these beliefs and acting according to them may make you feel that you are doing the right thing - or not.
This is going to go into the deepest abysses - so be prepared.
Relation to Atomically precise manufacturing
[todo: work in progress]
eternal return - fractal and convergent
[todo: work in progress]
- analogy: bundle of wool strands where each consists out of a bundle of finer strands (see: The fractal braided river of fate) - big bang - continuity of experienced time - recurrence theorem
- chaos - no direction of time - no sentien beings - time shrinking to zero - anthropic principle
- Big bang as spontaneous demixing event
Main topics
(TODO: split in two properly named pages - leave this one standing?)
The accessibility of perception threads
[todo: work in progress]
- birth vs copy - sufficient closeness for unexperienced jumping - we are continuously jumping
The chance for an alternate retry
Some of the decisions we take in our lives are deterministically decided. We now that. There are parts of our world that clearly act deterministic - otherwise nothing would have any meaning that is nothing could even exist.
Then there are things which are decided seemingly randomly. Seemingly! We cannot ever decisively proof that something is "truly random"**. There's always the chance that if we would have known more we could have spotted some structure in the seemingly random sequence of events.
Now assuming "eternal return" for the perception of some human in the form outlined below/above (todo) how can this human be sure that if his life had a lot of very bad things in store for him that when a sufficiently similar human comes close to this (his) life "again" all the bad things will repeat because there actually was far less random (that could have led to better things) involved in his life then he may have thought. [todo: spread paragraph in more sentences.]
Note that the lack available knowledge to someone can increase the range of consistent realities (more relative randomness). (related: nailing things in place by collapsing wave functions through observations)
How random are random number generators
Most things we think are random are actually not some much. Note that normal random number generators (pseudo random number generators - PRNGs) are completely unsuitable. By simply making a few thousand coin-flips by hand one can get a number which one cannot get by using any ever devised PRNG no matter how long you'd run them. Pseudo random number generators (PRNGs) let you see only a gazillionth of true reality. Shun them! (this has to do with the fact that "almost every number is uncomputable")
Practical application in daily life
When making some decisions - especially important ones where all options seem equal in desirability assessability: Decide with a "true random number generator" (TRNG) that are the sources that seems most likely to contain the most randomness. That is the source which come closest to "truly randomness". A difficult question is: Should one give options that seem really bad at least a teeny tiny chance?
- Use www.random.org
- Carry a quantum random generator around with you.
Practical application in transhumanistic endeavours
- [todo:] Research about how much randomness our biological human brain extracts (e.g. from thermal motions) and how much our thoughts get randomized by that. (btw: there is no form of quantum computation in the human brain - it is way to hot for that)
- Including at least that amount randomness into artificial brain emulations.
- use TRNGs shun PRNGs
Related
- there is more than one past - different causes same result
- oversimplification - einstein and the moon
- everyone sees a different future
- Big bang as spontaneous demixing event
Links
- eternal return - physically interpreted (leave to wikipedia)
- recurrence theorem (leave to wikipedia)
- true random number generator (leave to wikipedia)
- pseudo random number generator (leave to wikipedia)
- (un)computable number (leave to wikipedia)
- randomness (leave to wikipedia)
- many worlds interpretation (leave to wikipedia)
- no quantum computation in the brain - quantum mysticism (leave to wikipedia)
- randomness is relative - the more knowledge you have the less random something becomes
- randomness is definable by compressibility
- not even quantum randomness which till now 2015 looks for all practical purposes like perfect true randomness can be proven to be "truly random"
- further keywords: gödel - chaitins omega - math is full of holes - infinite number of axioms - axioms by practicabbility - human research as open systems - VR - the amount of entropy we got at big bang
