Venus - Revision history

Apm: /* Related / added links to yet unwritten Mars * Mercury (planet)

2024-03-18T09:17:40Z

Related: added links to yet unwritten * Mars * Mercury (planet)

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	* [[Gas giant atmospheres]]		* [[Gas giant atmospheres]]
	* Handling of molten iron and very high temperatures - [[refractory material]]s		* Handling of molten iron and very high temperatures - [[refractory material]]s
			* [[Mars]]
			* [[Mercury (planet)]]

	= External Links =		= External Links =

Apm: Why is Venus' surface so difficult to explore?

2023-08-26T21:02:54Z

Why is Venus' surface so difficult to explore?

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 Breathable air and nitrogen are effective lifting gasses in the dense carbon dioxide atmosphere and can be directly drawn from the atmosphere.
 Comparison of molecular weights: nitrogen 28, oxygen 32, carbon dioxide 44
 = Atmosphere =

Apm: /* External Links */ added link to archived page version

2022-12-29T13:10:19Z

External Links: added link to archived page version

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	= External Links =		= External Links =

	* [http://www.~~datasync~~.com/~~~rsf1~~/vel/1918vpt.htm temperature-height & pressure-height graphs of the Venusian atmosphere]		* [https://web.archive.org/web/20220513022542/http://www.shadetreephysics.com/vel/1918vpt.htm temperature-height & pressure-height graphs of the Venusian atmosphere (archive)]
			* [http://www.shadetreephysics.com/vel/1918vpt.htm temperature-height & pressure-height graphs of the Venusian atmosphere]
	* Wikipedia: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_trioxide Sulfur trioxide (liquid)]		* Wikipedia: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_trioxide Sulfur trioxide (liquid)]
	* Wikipedia: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapse_rate Atmospheric lapse rate]		* Wikipedia: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapse_rate Atmospheric lapse rate]

Apm: /* Why Venus is the way she is */ added note on needed references

2021-04-20T09:34:36Z

Why Venus is the way she is: added note on needed references

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	=== Why Venus is the way she is ===		=== Why Venus is the way she is ===

			The following is from gathered crumbs of info. It totally needs references. <br>
			Take it with a grain of salt for now.

	There are a number of (partially circular) interrelationships that made Venus what it is today and keep it that way. <br>		There are a number of (partially circular) interrelationships that made Venus what it is today and keep it that way. <br>

Apm: /* Wing gusts (danger of toppling over) */ added note on rollover

2021-04-20T09:31:37Z

Wing gusts (danger of toppling over): added note on rollover

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	== Wing gusts (danger of toppling over) ==		== Wing gusts (danger of toppling over) ==

	Since there are no obstacles high up in the atmosphere on a small scale differences in relative airspeed should be negligible.		Since there are no obstacles high up in the atmosphere on a small scale differences in relative airspeed should be negligible. <br>
	On a bigger scale this might become an issue ['''data needed'''].		On a bigger scale this might become an issue ['''data needed''']. <br>
			Like a very big balloon might strongly want to start to roll over upside down.

	== Fires ==		== Fires ==

Apm: /* Lightning */ some naive elaborations

2021-04-20T09:29:43Z

Lightning: some naive elaborations

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	== Lightning ==		== Lightning ==

	Some kind of lightning arrester system needs to be devised.		Some kind of lightning arrester system needs to be devised. <br>
			Active aversion of especially bad weather may or may not a viable strategy depending <br>
			on wind speeds and mobility of the aerial vehicle of choice.

			Airplanes on Earth manage to deal pretty good with occasionally being hit by lightning strikes. <br>
			Granted they always try to avoid bad weather. <br>
			There should be quite some info on that for investigating further.

	== Strong downwards facing winds ==		== Strong downwards facing winds ==

Apm: /* Different effect on different means of staying aloft */ of -> for

2021-04-20T09:24:15Z

Different effect on different means of staying aloft: of -> for

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	=== Different effect on different means of staying aloft ===		=== Different effect on different means for staying aloft ===

	Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus		Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus

Apm: /* Different effect on means different of staying aloft */ word swap - now done correctly

2021-04-20T09:23:55Z

Different effect on means different of staying aloft: word swap - now done correctly

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	=== Different effect on means ~~different~~ of staying aloft ===		=== Different effect on different means of staying aloft ===

	Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus		Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus

Apm: /* Effect */ changed section title such that it becomes more descriptive

2021-04-20T09:22:50Z

Effect: changed section title such that it becomes more descriptive

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	=== ~~Effect~~ ===		=== Different effect on means different of staying aloft ===

	Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus		Strong down-winds would be especially a problem for Balloons or Blip/Zeppelin like airships with big wind-attack-area to mass ratios that have thus

Apm: /* Strong downwards facing winds */

2021-04-20T09:20:58Z

Strong downwards facing winds

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 How much down sucking winds are there on Venus excactly? <br>
-This would be especially a problem with Balloons or Blip/Zeppeling like airships. <br>
+If there are too strong downwinds that cannot reliably be avoided <br>
-Less so with [[permanently flying airplanes]] (in operation self repairing).
+that reach all the way down to extreme heat and pressure levels then aerial colonization might not be viable.
 == Wing gusts (danger of toppling over) ==