Underground transport and habitation - Revision history

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Related pages: added back link to page * Automated decibot swarm mining and tunneling

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	* [[Automatedly maintained megapark]]		* [[Automatedly maintained megapark]]
	* [[Nature reserve]]		* [[Nature reserve]]
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			* [[Automated decibot swarm mining and tunneling]]

Apm: /* Implication of underground comfort on Earth */

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Implication of underground comfort on Earth

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	Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Best approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.		Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Best approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.
	Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a suit-less survivable atmosphere.		Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a [[suit-less survivable atmosphere]].

	== Climate control & life support systems ==		== Climate control & life support systems ==

Apm: /* Implication of underground comfort on Earth */

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Implication of underground comfort on Earth

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	(with no access to underground living spaces).		(with no access to underground living spaces).

	Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. ~~Bets~~ approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.		Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Best approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.
	Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a suit-less survivable atmosphere.		Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a suit-less survivable atmosphere.

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */

2025-06-07T21:45:29Z

Relation to space colonization

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	then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface		then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface
	(with no access to underground living spaces).		(with no access to underground living spaces).

			Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Bets approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.
			Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a suit-less survivable atmosphere.

	== Climate control & life support systems ==		== Climate control & life support systems ==
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	== Gravity & ceiling height (and shape) ==		== Gravity & ceiling height (and shape) ==

	~~Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Bets approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.~~
	~~Or (for Mars at least) one goes to the arduous generations long task of generating a suit-less survivable atmosphere.~~

	Lower gravity may make low ceilings problematic.		Lower gravity may make low ceilings problematic.

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Implication of underground comfort on Earth

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	When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,		When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,
	and the underground living technology of Earth becomes by some adaptions usable off ~~earth~~ too,		and the underground living technology of Earth becomes by some adaptions usable off Earth too,
	then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface		then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface
	(with no access to underground living spaces).		(with no access to underground living spaces).

Apm: /* Today's city live discomfort in comparison */ changed headline, added line-breaks, cleanup

2025-06-07T21:44:20Z

Today's city live discomfort in comparison: changed headline, added line-breaks, cleanup

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	(hot, cold, dry, wet, windy) to work well.		(hot, cold, dry, wet, windy) to work well.

	== ~~Today~~'s city ~~live discomfort~~ in comparison ==		== Discomfort of today's city life in comparison ==

	Today we (too) often have concrete deserts. And places built for cars rather than humans.		Today we (too) often have …
	We often have big buildings with windowless indoor rooms ~~and~~ that		* very much plantless "concrete deserts". <br> Ugly too look at and an oven in summer. And …<br>
	despite today's light sources still being far from sun equivalent.		* places built for cars rather than humans. <br>
	Streets are mostly ground level but buildings go vertical,
	which is predictably leading to severe congestion.		We often have big buildings with windowless indoor rooms. <br>
	~~Also~~ to lethal accidents, ~~also tho~~ chronic health problems from noise,		And that despite today's light sources still being far from sun equivalent. Indoor is dim. <br>
	fine dust, and (so long we still combust gasoline) fumes.
	Going underground all that would be gone and for the future people like is what a medieval past ~~for us now~~.		Streets are mostly ground level but buildings in city centers go vertical, <br>
			which is predictably leading to severe congestion. <br>
			But streets blocking the ways for pedestrians also leads to lethal accidents,
			Open direct line of sight (or rather sound) streets lead to chronic health problems from noise, <br>
			There there is fine dust spreadying everywhere, <br>
			and (so long we still combust gasoline) exhaust fumes (it's still not just CO2). <br>
			Going underground all that would be gone and history. <br>
			And for the future people this situation will seem like what <br>
			what for us now seem a medieval past. <br>

	= Relation to space colonization =		= Relation to space colonization =

Apm: /* Problems of too much comfort */

2025-06-07T21:32:12Z

Problems of too much comfort

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	* There's never really harsh weather to endure, <br>never the harshness of being exposed to the elements of surface weather.		* There's never really harsh weather to endure, <br>never the harshness of being exposed to the elements of surface weather.
	* There's no severe levels of UV radiation that can lead to bad sunburns		* There's no severe levels of UV radiation that can lead to bad sunburns
	Human physical and especially mental health may need/require some exposure to extremes		Human physical and especially mental health may need/require some exposure to extremes <br>
	(hot, cold, dry, wet, windy) to work well.		(hot, cold, dry, wet, windy) to work well.

Apm: /* Freedom of movement */ personal transport

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Freedom of movement: personal transport

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	Unlike with cities on the surface today, <br>		Unlike with cities on the surface today, <br>
	long range personal transport and heavy goods transport <br>		long range [[personal transport]] and heavy goods transport <br>
	(including the [[global microcomponent redistribution system]]) <br>		(including the [[global microcomponent redistribution system]]) <br>
	can and would be multi-layer and thus can be well separated from living spaces made for humans not cars.		can and would be multi-layer and thus can be well separated from living spaces made for humans not cars.

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */ headlines

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Relation to space colonization: headlines

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	= Relation to space colonization =		= Relation to space colonization =

			== Implication of underground comfort on Earth ==

	When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,		When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,
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	then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface		then this implies that living off Earth has become more comfortable than on Earths surface
	(with no access to underground living spaces).		(with no access to underground living spaces).

			== Climate control & life support systems ==

	Climate control for living deeply underground and <br>		Climate control for living deeply underground and <br>
	life support systems for space habitation might have some notable overlap.		life support systems for space habitation might have some notable overlap.

	=== Gravity & ceiling ===		== Gravity & ceiling height (and shape) ==

	Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Bets approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.		Granted one obviously can't visit Earths surface on a whim as one will usually be able to in Earth's underground living spaces. Bets approximation being seriously harsh weather simulations.

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */

2025-06-07T21:25:26Z

Relation to space colonization

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	Going underground all that would be gone and for the future people like is what a medieval past for us now.		Going underground all that would be gone and for the future people like is what a medieval past for us now.

	== Relation to space colonization ==		= Relation to space colonization =

	When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,		When living underground here on Earth eventually becomes more comfortable and luxurious than living on the surface,

Underground transport and habitation - Revision history

Apm: /* Related pages */ added back link to page * Automated decibot swarm mining and tunneling

Apm: /* Implication of underground comfort on Earth */

Apm: /* Implication of underground comfort on Earth */

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */

Apm: /* Implication of underground comfort on Earth */

Apm: /* Today's city live discomfort in comparison */ changed headline, added line-breaks, cleanup

Apm: /* Problems of too much comfort */

Apm: /* Freedom of movement */ personal transport

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */ headlines

Apm: /* Relation to space colonization */

Apm: /* Related pages / added back link to page Automated decibot swarm mining and tunneling