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	* '''Difficulty:''' Easier to build, well kind of, they'll be built by already advances systems. See: [[Gem-gum factory]]		* '''Difficulty:''' Easier to build, well kind of, they'll be built by already advances systems. See: [[Gem-gum factory]]
	* '''Undesirability:''' Muchvless so as they are usually not selfreplicative and if so then they need preproduced vitamins.<br> Strongly depends on the concrete design. Politically unproblematic as once they are specifically discussed in public awareness, then there is already a very great deal of awareness.		* '''Undesirability:''' Muchvless so as they are usually not selfreplicative and if so then they need preproduced vitamins.<br> Strongly depends on the concrete design. Politically unproblematic as once they are specifically discussed in public awareness, then there is already a very great deal of awareness.

			[[category:Direct path]]

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Apm: /* The three problems */

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The three problems

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	* the difficulty in reaching them		* the difficulty in reaching them
	* their undesirability		* their undesirability

			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are too inefficient]]
			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are too difficult]]
			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are not desirable]]

	=== Inefficiency ===		=== Inefficiency ===

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	* [[Direct path]]		* [[Direct path]]

			=== The microscale analogon ===

			[[Microcomponent maintenance microbot]]s <br>
			These are also monolithic mobile devices but …
			* way bigger, that is: [[microscale]] and [[mesoscale]] (not [[milliscale]] though) — see: [[Scales]]
			* not capable of mechanosynthesis (as this would be way too slow and inefficient)
			* operating at a higher assembly levels above [[assembly level 1]]
			* being dependent on preproduced [[microcomponents]] or [[crystolecule]]s and their assembies as vitamins.
			* not so ultra compact, that is not so compressed in functionality (not rferring to size but to functional compressedness)

			[[Microcomponent maintenance microbot]]s are not selfreplcative, well, assuming a supply of preproduced-vitamins they could act weakly selfreplicatingly. Especially for ones capable of processing (or even scavenging) crystolecules. Malicious [[crystolecule scavenger microbot]]s could be a (very advanced tech) scenario. Pure [[microcomponent scavenger microbot]]s though obviously can't selfreplicate just lug same sized identical units around at best. They may act like a beehive, dispersing to do scavenging and returning to (macroscopic scale) base to put the loot into part magazines.

			Regarding the three problems of molecular assemblers <br>
			these apply much less for [[Microcomponent maintenance microbot]]s:
			* '''Efficientcy:''' Better because of better [[level throughput balancing]] as there is no (ignored) need to integrate many long factory lines for many different mass produced standard part types. And also there's less energy turnover and a much smaller number of pieces of matter that need moving around.
			* '''Difficulty:''' Easier to build, well kind of, they'll be built by already advances systems. See: [[Gem-gum factory]]
			* '''Undesirability:''' Muchvless so as they are usually not selfreplicative and if so then they need preproduced vitamins.<br> Strongly depends on the concrete design. Politically unproblematic as once they are specifically discussed in public awareness, then there is already a very great deal of awareness.

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Related: added links to the three problems

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	* Up: [[Molecular assembler]]		* Up: [[Molecular assembler]]
	* Side: [[Molecular assemblers as advanced productive nanosystem (outdated)]]		* Side: [[Molecular assemblers as advanced productive nanosystem (outdated)]]
			'''The three problems of molecular assemblers that make them an outdated concept:'''
			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are too inefficient]]
			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are too difficult]]
			* [[Why ultra-compact molecular assemblers are not desirable]]
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	* [[Direct path]]		* [[Direct path]]

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	{{site specific term}}		{{site specific term}}
			'''Note:''' This page is talking about "molecular assemblers" (here "proto-assemblers") in the sense of: <br>
			Diamondoid self-replicative nanodevices/[[nanobots]] that are monolitic, ultra-compact, and usually mobile in 3D. <br>
			For a disambiguation to other meanings see page [[Molecular assembler (disambiguation)]] <br>
			{{wikitodo\|make this into a template}}
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	[[File:OutdatedMolecularAssemblersConceptualIllustrations.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|'''OUTDATED CONCEPT''' several highly conceptual illustrations of diamondoid molecular assemblers. Common traits: Just one or two manipulators, a gastight hull enclosing everything, full selfreplicativity, very small size ~100nm, more or less optionally some sort of mobility some swimming others here unspecified]]		[[File:OutdatedMolecularAssemblersConceptualIllustrations.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|'''OUTDATED CONCEPT''' several highly conceptual illustrations of diamondoid molecular assemblers. Common traits: Just one or two manipulators, a gastight hull enclosing everything, full selfreplicativity, very small size ~100nm, more or less optionally some sort of mobility some swimming others here unspecified]]

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			[[File:OutdatedMolecularAssemblersConceptualIllustrations.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|'''OUTDATED CONCEPT''' several highly conceptual illustrations of diamondoid molecular assemblers. Common traits: Just one or two manipulators, a gastight hull enclosing everything, full selfreplicativity, very small size ~100nm, more or less optionally some sort of mobility some swimming others here unspecified]]

	[[File:Replicating-molecular-assemblers_screencap_BBC-Horizon_Nano-utopia_1995_480p_high-contrast.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|Depicted: The (dated) concept of replicating diamondoid molecular assemblers. Here two ''free floating'' assemblers are in the process of copying themselves. Screencap from BBC Horizon doku "Nanoutopia" (1995)]]		[[File:Replicating-molecular-assemblers_screencap_BBC-Horizon_Nano-utopia_1995_480p_high-contrast.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|Depicted: The (dated) concept of replicating diamondoid molecular assemblers. Here two ''free floating'' assemblers are in the process of copying themselves. Screencap from BBC Horizon doku "Nanoutopia" (1995)]]

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	For a [[proto-assembler]] that sub-optimality may be acceptable but there is '''still the matter of difficulty'''. <br>		For a [[proto-assembler]] that sub-optimality may be acceptable but there is '''still the matter of difficulty'''. <br>
	Optimal systems look very different. See: [[gemstone metamaterial on-chip factories]]		Optimal systems look very different. See: [[gemstone metamaterial on-chip factories]]

			== Old proto-assembler designs ==

			Quite a bit of thought was put into the assembler model {{wikitodo\|link relevant parts in KSRM}}. <br>
			Either they where supposed to swim about in a solution <br>
			or there was some form of movement mechanism in a machine phase scaffold crystal envisioned like:
			* sliding cubes {{wikitodo\|TODO add references}}
			* legged blocks {{wikitodo\|TODO add references}}

	== Terminology ==		== Terminology ==