Pathway controversy - Revision history

Apm: category:Incremental path category:Direct path

2026-03-29T16:17:42Z

category:Incremental path category:Direct path

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	* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160328015611/http://metamodern.com/2008/12/27/toward-advanced-nanosystems-materials-1/ Waybackmachine: K. Eric Drexlers metamdern website: "Why diamond synthesis is a bad objective"] (meant when seen as a near term main focus!)		* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160328015611/http://metamodern.com/2008/12/27/toward-advanced-nanosystems-materials-1/ Waybackmachine: K. Eric Drexlers metamdern website: "Why diamond synthesis is a bad objective"] (meant when seen as a near term main focus!)

			[[category:Incremental path]]
			[[category:Direct path]]

Apm: /* Analysis of this communication and the general situation */ more bold and added note that this is spculation

2023-04-18T08:52:55Z

Analysis of this communication and the general situation: more bold and added note that this is spculation

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	it is both difficult and unnecessary.		it is both difficult and unnecessary.

	'''Also with "diamond synthesis" here he may have, (being it consciously or not), referred to aiming directly at doing it at a scale sufficient for full on bootstrapping towards diamondoid nanofactories~~''' - without~~ taking any advantage from bottom up incremental path technology.		'''Also with "diamond synthesis" here he may have, (being it consciously or not), referred to aiming directly at doing it at a scale sufficient for full on bootstrapping towards diamondoid nanofactories. Without taking any advantage from bottom up incremental path technology.''' That is: Maybe he was not referring to the mere core "diamond synthesis" process here, where greater speed and parallelism are not really necessary for a good proof of principle. This is speculation!
	That is: Maybe he was not referring to the mere core process here, where greater speed and parallelism are not really necessary for a good proof of principle.

	The nanofactory collaboration seems pretty heavily focused on the direct path.<br>		The nanofactory collaboration seems pretty heavily focused on the direct path.<br>

Apm: /* Analysis of this communication and the general situation */ bold

2023-04-18T08:50:36Z

Analysis of this communication and the general situation: bold

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	it is both difficult and unnecessary.		it is both difficult and unnecessary.

	Also with "diamond synthesis" here he may have, being it consciously or not, referred to		'''Also with "diamond synthesis" here he may have, (being it consciously or not), referred to aiming directly at doing it at a scale sufficient for full on bootstrapping towards diamondoid nanofactories''' - without taking any advantage from bottom up incremental path technology.
	to aiming directly at doing it at a scale sufficient for full on bootstrapping towards diamondoid nanofactories - without taking any advantage from bottom up incremental path technology.
	That is: Maybe he was not referring to the mere core process here, where greater speed and parallelism are not really necessary for a good proof of principle.		That is: Maybe he was not referring to the mere core process here, where greater speed and parallelism are not really necessary for a good proof of principle.

Apm: /* Analysis of this communication and the general situation */

2023-04-18T08:26:05Z

Analysis of this communication and the general situation

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	= Analysis of this communication and the general situation =		= Analysis of this communication and the general situation =

	{{todo\|It seems there was some miscommunication ~~here~~ - more carefully analysis is needed here}}		{{todo\|It seems there was some miscommunication in this exchange - more carefully analysis is needed here}}

	It seems the nanofactory collaboration's response may unintentionally have been more targeted at how people reading E.Drexlers blog entry could interpret it rather than what E.Drexler actually wanted to convey.		It seems the nanofactory collaboration's response may unintentionally have been more targeted at how people reading E.Drexlers blog entry could interpret it rather than what E.Drexler actually wanted to convey.

Apm: /* The direct path nanofactory paradox */

2018-07-23T16:22:53Z

The direct path nanofactory paradox

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	concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.		concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.

	Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline (2003)** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one ~~starts~~ to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).		Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline (2003)** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one may start to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).

	= Notes =		= Notes =

Apm: /* The direct path nanofactory paradox */ corrected date - duh

2018-07-23T16:22:11Z

The direct path nanofactory paradox: corrected date - duh

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	concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.		concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.

	Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline (~~2013~~)** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one starts to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).		Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline (2003)** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one starts to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).

	= Notes =		= Notes =

Apm: /* The direct path nanofactory paradox */ added date

2018-07-23T16:21:49Z

The direct path nanofactory paradox: added date

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	concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.		concept {{todo\|add links}} but there's also strong attachment to the direct path.

	Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one starts to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).		Especially in Chris Phoenix's direct path diamondoid nanofactory outline (2013)** (See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]]) one starts to wonder in how far the core units that do the mechanosynthesis in this nanofactory differ from molecular assemblers (beside being locked in place).

	= Notes =		= Notes =

Apm: /* Related */ added link to yet unwritten page: Diamond

2017-11-05T14:48:53Z

Related: added link to yet unwritten page: Diamond

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	* This is strongly related to: [[History]]		* This is strongly related to: [[History]]
	* [[Pathways to advanced APM systems]]		* [[Pathways to advanced APM systems]]
			* [[Diamond]]

	= External links =		= External links =

	* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160328015611/http://metamodern.com/2008/12/27/toward-advanced-nanosystems-materials-1/ Waybackmachine: K. Eric Drexlers metamdern website: "Why diamond synthesis is a bad objective"] (meant when seen as a near term main focus!)		* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160328015611/http://metamodern.com/2008/12/27/toward-advanced-nanosystems-materials-1/ Waybackmachine: K. Eric Drexlers metamdern website: "Why diamond synthesis is a bad objective"] (meant when seen as a near term main focus!)

Apm: /* Related */ removed link to merged in page Peaceful internal conflict

2017-07-31T10:53:26Z

Related: removed link to merged in page Peaceful internal conflict

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	* This is strongly related to: [[History]]		* This is strongly related to: [[History]]
	* Duplicate page: [[Peaceful internal conflict]]
	* [[Pathways to advanced APM systems]]		* [[Pathways to advanced APM systems]]

Apm: /* Response form "Nanofactory Collaboration" */

2017-07-29T16:40:59Z

Response form "Nanofactory Collaboration"

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	The response on the [http://www.molecularassembler.com/Nanofactory/ Nanofactory Collaboration homepage] (state 2016-11)<br>		The response on the [http://www.molecularassembler.com/Nanofactory/ Nanofactory Collaboration homepage] (state 2016-11)<br>
	On the [http://www.molecularassembler.com/Nanofactory/index.htm#Note28Dec08 bottom of the Nanofactory Collaboration page] they explicitly state that they try to tread the direct pathway. ~~'''Citation:'''~~		On the [http://www.molecularassembler.com/Nanofactory/index.htm#Note28Dec08 bottom of the Nanofactory Collaboration page] they explicitly state that they try to tread the direct pathway.

	=== '''Citation''' (block format) ===		=== '''Citation''' (block format) ===