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External links

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	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Knot_stubs		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Knot_stubs
	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Double_knots		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Double_knots
			* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hitch_knots
			* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitch_(knot)
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	== Knot forum discussions ==		== Knot forum discussions ==

	* [https://forum.igkt.net/index.php?topic=6989.msg46738 2021 – Topic: novel table for interllocking overhands bends ]		* [https://forum.igkt.net/index.php?topic=6989.msg46738 2021 – Topic: novel table for interllocking overhands bends ]

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Interlocking unknots: added link to page n diamond knot

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	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harness_bend 🌸		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harness_bend 🌸
	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_knot 🌸 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_knot_loop 🌸)		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_knot 🌸 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_knot_loop 🌸)
			* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_knot 🌸 (still unknots?, carrick bend derived)

	== Overhand knot variants ==		== Overhand knot variants ==

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Advanced: added ornamental knot notes

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	– as stopper knots for the ones that would come out at opposing ends (i.e. normally loose ends fused and minimal length) <br>		– as stopper knots for the ones that would come out at opposing ends (i.e. normally loose ends fused and minimal length) <br>
	– as loops for the ones that come out at same side (i.e. normally loose ends make a loop) <br>		– as loops for the ones that come out at same side (i.e. normally loose ends make a loop) <br>

			For '''some of the most practical ornamental knots''' (so far practical applies here) <br>
			where two strings go in parallel and come out parallel there are useful: <br>
			★ the shakehands knot but with one end threaded in the opposite direction (tricky) <br>
			★ two-strand diamond knot (a variant of the carrick bend with additional threading that needs quite a bit of working) <br>
			★ the snake knot: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schlangenknoten.png (snake knot graphic)] <br>

	= Relation to mathematical knots =		= Relation to mathematical knots =

Apm: /* Misc tips and notes */ sections and a bit of cleanup

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Misc tips and notes: sections and a bit of cleanup

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	= Misc tips and notes =		= Misc tips and notes =

	'''If you memorize just one ~~things~~ from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>		'''If you memorize just one thing/knot from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>
	Beside loops, use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''. <br>		Beside loops, use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''. <br>
	''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>		''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>
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	Untie the junk knot after the butterfly is formed. <br>		Untie the junk knot after the butterfly is formed. <br>
	Thereby converting the loop into a bend. <br>		Thereby converting the loop into a bend. <br>
			Direct tying of the rope-joining butterfly-bend is optional, if you wanna try that then <br>
			check out the diagram on interlocking overhand bends on this page.

	Beyond that memorize basic '''friction knots'''. <br>		Beyond that memorize basic '''friction knots'''. <br>
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	It's the same tying technique so not much additional memorization effort. <br>		It's the same tying technique so not much additional memorization effort. <br>
	Just switching the handedness correctly can require a bit of practice. <br>		Just switching the handedness correctly can require a bit of practice. <br>

			'''Mid rope tieable knots without access to the ends are nice.''' <br>
			Beside the butterfly loop there is also the constrictor knot which has this property too. <br>
			The constrictor is a (hard to untie) hitch though with very different application cases. <br>
			There is also the very trivial most basic slip knot that can be handy in cases. <br>

			== Practizing tricks ==

	Here is a '''practicing trick''' that … <br>		Here is a '''practicing trick''' that … <br>
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	but the former is interlocking unknots the latter is interlocking overhand knots. <br>		but the former is interlocking unknots the latter is interlocking overhand knots. <br>

	~~'''Mid rope tieable knots without access to the ends are nice.''' <br>~~		== Advanced ==
	~~Beside the butterfly loop there is also the constrictor knot which has this property too. <br>~~
	~~The constrictor is a (hard to untie) hitch though with very different application cases. <br>~~
	~~There is also the very trivial most basic slip knot that can be handy in cases. <br>~~

	'''Tricky:''' <br>		'''Tricky:''' <br>

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Misc tips and notes

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	Inward oriented for packing and outward oriented for tensioning. <br>		Inward oriented for packing and outward oriented for tensioning. <br>

	The double overhand noose is nice for a tightening loop that <br>		The '''double overhand noose is nice for a self-tightening loop''' that <br>
	can self-dissolve when it can be pulled from a carabiner or stick. <br>		can self-dissolve when it can be pulled from a carabiner or stick. <br>
	Also the double overhand knot is good for the fishermans knot/bend. <br>		Also the double overhand knot is good for the fishermans knot/bend. <br>

Apm: /* Misc tips and notes */ added note of the fishermans knot

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Misc tips and notes: added note of the fishermans knot

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	The double overhand noose is nice for a tightening loop that <br>		The double overhand noose is nice for a tightening loop that <br>
	can self-dissolve when it can be pulled from a carabiner or stick. <br>		can self-dissolve when it can be pulled from a carabiner or stick. <br>
			Also the double overhand knot is good for the fishermans knot/bend. <br>
			It's the same tying technique so not much additional memorization effort. <br>
			Just switching the handedness correctly can require a bit of practice. <br>

	Here is a '''practicing trick''' that … <br>		Here is a '''practicing trick''' that … <br>

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Misc tips and notes

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	= Misc tips and notes =		= Misc tips and notes =

	'''If you ~~take~~ just one things from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>		'''If you memorize just one things from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>
	Beside loops, use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''. <br>		Beside loops, use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''. <br>
	''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>		''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>
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	Thereby converting the loop into a bend. <br>		Thereby converting the loop into a bend. <br>

	Beyond that ~~remember~~ basic '''friction knots'''. <br>		Beyond that memorize basic '''friction knots'''. <br>
	These are least integratable in the systematic schemes here but highly practical. <br>		These are least integratable in the systematic schemes here but highly practical. <br>
	Rolling hitch (and optionally magnus hitch as neat variant) <br>		Rolling hitch (and optionally magnus hitch as neat variant) <br>

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Misc tips and notes

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	For end-to-end of rope joining (butterfly bend) without any extra memorization, <br>		For end-to-end of rope joining (butterfly bend) without any extra memorization, <br>
	you can treat the open ends as if it were a connected loop. <br>		you can treat the open ends as if it were a connected loop. <br>
	Use any random temporary junk-knot if it helps. Untie the junk knot after the ~~zeppelin~~ is formed. <br>		Use any random temporary junk-knot if it helps. <br>
			Untie the junk knot after the butterfly is formed. <br>
			Thereby converting the loop into a bend. <br>

	Beyond that remember basic '''friction knots'''. <br>		Beyond that remember basic '''friction knots'''. <br>

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Misc tips and notes

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	'''If you take just one things from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>		'''If you take just one things from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>
	~~Use~~ it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length''' <br>		Beside loops, use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''. <br>
	''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>		''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>
	Learn at least one mid rope tying technique for the butterfly loop. There are two common ones.<br>		Learn at least one mid rope tying technique for the butterfly loop. There are two common ones.<br>

Apm: /* Misc tips and notes */ double overhand noose, mid rope tieable knots, more on the butterfly

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Misc tips and notes: double overhand noose, mid rope tieable knots, more on the butterfly

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	= Misc tips and notes =		= Misc tips and notes =

	If you take just one ~~or two~~ things from here go for the ~~mid rope tyable~~ butterfly. <br>		'''If you take just one things from here go for the butterfly loop.''' <br>
	~~And use~~ it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length'''.		Use it to '''abandon the offset-overhand-bend and the reef-knot for extending rope length''' <br>
			''These two unfortunately are the worst possible choices that are thought and known the most.'' <br>
			Learn at least one mid rope tying technique for the butterfly loop. There are two common ones.<br>
			For end-to-end of rope joining (butterfly bend) without any extra memorization, <br>
			you can treat the open ends as if it were a connected loop. <br>
			Use any random temporary junk-knot if it helps. Untie the junk knot after the zeppelin is formed. <br>

	Beyond that remember basic friction knots. <br>		Beyond that remember basic '''friction knots'''. <br>
	These are least integratable in the systematic schemes here but highly practical. <br>		These are least integratable in the systematic schemes here but highly practical. <br>
	Rolling hitch (and optionally magnus hitch as neat variant) <br>		Rolling hitch (and optionally magnus hitch as neat variant) <br>
	Inward oriented for packing and outward oriented for tensioning. <br>		Inward oriented for packing and outward oriented for tensioning. <br>

	Here is a practicing trick that … <br>		The double overhand noose is nice for a tightening loop that <br>
			can self-dissolve when it can be pulled from a carabiner or stick. <br>

			Here is a '''practicing trick''' that … <br>
	– allows one to re-derive some knots via their interrelations. <br>		– allows one to re-derive some knots via their interrelations. <br>
	– allows for refreshing memory by tinkering a bit. <br>		– allows for refreshing memory by tinkering a bit. <br>
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	The carrick bend is similar to the zeppelin bend in safety and easy untiability after loading <br>		The carrick bend is similar to the zeppelin bend in safety and easy untiability after loading <br>
	but the former is interlocking unknots the latter is interlocking overhand knots. <br>		but the former is interlocking unknots the latter is interlocking overhand knots. <br>

			'''Mid rope tieable knots without access to the ends are nice.''' <br>
			Beside the butterfly loop there is also the constrictor knot which has this property too. <br>
			The constrictor is a (hard to untie) hitch though with very different application cases. <br>
			There is also the very trivial most basic slip knot that can be handy in cases. <br>

	'''Tricky:''' <br>		'''Tricky:''' <br>