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2023-11-28T09:10:14Z

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	See: [[Macroscale style machinery at the nanoscale]].		See: [[Macroscale style machinery at the nanoscale]].

	In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead		In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead <br>
	one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>		one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>
	And the issue that simulations are typically run at excessively high speeds way beyond the proposed speeds <br>		And the issue that simulations are typically run at excessively high speeds way beyond the proposed speeds <br>

Apm: /* Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons */ added note on issue of misleadingly fast simulation speeds

2023-11-28T09:09:55Z

Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons: added note on issue of misleadingly fast simulation speeds

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	So one might be inclined to think that they'd be a nice selling point. <br>		So one might be inclined to think that they'd be a nice selling point. <br>

	The catch is many scientist and material-science engineers ~~get them in their wrong throat and~~ misunderstand them as misunderstanding of basis physics. For some good but the wrong reasons. <br>		The catch is many scientist and material-science engineers <br>
			misunderstand them as misunderstanding of basis physics. <br>
			For some good but the wrong reasons. <br>
	See: [[Macroscale style machinery at the nanoscale]].		See: [[Macroscale style machinery at the nanoscale]].

	In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead		In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead
	one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>		one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>
			And the issue that simulations are typically run at excessively high speeds way beyond the proposed speeds <br>
			due to the time-steps needing to be smaller than thermal wiggles of atoms and slow speeds leading to way to many needed time-steps. <br>
	More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]		More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]

Apm: /* Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built */ elaborated on crystolecule design cornerstone design perception

2023-11-28T09:04:55Z

Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built: elaborated on crystolecule design cornerstone design perception

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	The simulations may still be useful for publicity. <br>		The simulations may still be useful for publicity. <br>
	Well the more colorful (due to more elements used) further out design-space stakeout models are more attention grabbing. <br>		Well the more colorful (due to more elements used) further out design-space stakeout models are more attention grabbing. <br>
	Though they may incur more criticism exactly due to being further out there.		Though they may incur more criticism exactly due to being further out there and just cornerstones not necessarily meant to be used as is but rather as inspiration.

	'''Crystolecules akin structures that ARE already experimentally accessible:'''		'''Crystolecules akin structures that ARE already experimentally accessible:'''

Apm: /* Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built */

2023-11-28T09:02:30Z

Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built

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	modeling more concrete examples within the already spanned up design space is of more questionable utility.		modeling more concrete examples within the already spanned up design space is of more questionable utility.

	There is little point in designing parts for what we currently see as an ideal far term target <br>		There is little point in designing crystolecule parts for what we currently see as an ideal far term target <br>
	as what is shown in the [[nanofactory concept demonstration video]]. <br>		as what is shown in the [[nanofactory concept demonstration video]]. <br>
	Like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in this video. <br>		Like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in this video. <br>

Apm: major updates on the parts discussing where future backwards work makes more and where less sense

2023-11-28T08:59:29Z

major updates on the parts discussing where future backwards work makes more and where less sense

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	This page is about a portion of highly targeted development towards [[gemstone metamaterial technology]].		This page is about a portion of highly targeted development towards [[gemstone metamaterial technology]].

	Here counting to "future-backward development" will be everything that is not yet accessible by physical experiment but that may already make sense to think about and work on.		Here counting to "future-backward development" will be everything …
			* that is not yet accessible by physical experiment but …
			* that may already make sense to think about and work on.

	= Modelling as of yet experimentally inaccessible forms of mechanosynthesis =		= Modelling as of yet experimentally inaccessible forms of mechanosynthesis =
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	= Exploratory engineering (EE) =		= Exploratory engineering (EE) =

	See main article: [[Exploratory engineering]]		See main article: [[Exploratory engineering]] <br>
	A basis for a sensible far term target has been determined by [[Nanosytems]]		A basis for a sensible far term target has been determined by [[Nanosytems]] <br>
	but there surely is plenty of space for refinement.		but there surely is plenty of space for refinement.

	== Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built ==		== Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built ==

	Related articles:		'''Related articles:'''
	* [[Crystolecule]] and		* [[Crystolecule]] and
	* [[Design of crystolecules]]		* [[Design of crystolecules]]

	Currently these should mainly be seen in the context of ~~explotarory~~ engineering.		Currently these should mainly be seen in the context of exploratory engineering. <br>
	That is: Designing some explicit models of these at opposite ends of the design space		That is: Designing some explicit models of these at opposite ends of the design space <br>
	can give some cornerstones to the patch in design space that contains feasible solutions.		can give some cornerstones to the patch in design space that contains feasible solutions. <br>
			See: [[Convex hull crystolecule design-space stakeout]] <br>

			Semi automates modeling of standard parts like [[atomically precise sleeve bearings]] may have some merit.
			* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and <br>
			* especially designing highly uncritical purely structural spacing [[Kaehler brackets]] <br>
			These might be some work that really may become usable in a 1:1 unchanged fashion at some point. <br>

			'''Complexly interlinking systems:'''<br>

			As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules <br>
			modeling more concrete examples within the already spanned up design space is of more questionable utility.

	~~As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules~~		There is little point in designing parts for what we currently see as an ideal far term target <br>
	~~there~~ is no point in designing parts for ~~(and~~ the ~~whole of) complexly interlinking systems~~		as what is shown in the [[nanofactory concept demonstration video]]. <br>
	~~like~~ e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in ~~the [[nanofactory concept demonstration~~ video]].		Like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in this video. <br>
			Especially little point in attempting to design such a far term target system to atomic detail in its entirety.

	* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and		Modeling what one thinks may resemble early systems (maybe easier to tell in [[direct path]] context) <br>
	* especially designing highly uncritical purely structural spacing [[~~Kaehler brackets~~]]		is questionable as many predictions on early capabilities becoming unlocked first can turn out quite a bit different than expected. <br>
	~~These might be some work that really may~~ become ~~usable in a 1:1 unchanged fashion at some point~~.		Still there's a better chance for models to become useful than with modeling parts for far term systems.

	~~But much more~~ than ~~that these pretty colourful images and animation clips are~~ useful for publicity. ~~Or so one might thing~~.		Even if the created theoretical overhang turns out to land further in the further than intended <br>
			The simulations may still be useful for publicity. <br>
			Well the more colorful (due to more elements used) further out design-space stakeout models are more attention grabbing. <br>
			Though they may incur more criticism exactly due to being further out there.

	'''Crystolecules akin structures that ARE already experimentally accessible:'''		'''Crystolecules akin structures that ARE already experimentally accessible:'''

	Note that carbon nanotubes which have some similarities to crystolecules are already experimentally ~~accesssible~~.		Note that carbon nanotubes which have some similarities to crystolecules are already experimentally accessible.
	Measurements of friction can and have been taken giving some clue and expermental evidence to the amazing properties that we can expect. Friction measurements on nanotubes of course already belong to the [[present-forward development\|present-forward]] part of development. The thermodynamic synthesis technology of nanotubes is less targeted to advanced APM. That is more on the general material science direction.		Measurements of friction can and have been taken giving some clue and expermental evidence to the amazing properties that we can expect. Friction measurements on nanotubes of course already belong to the [[present-forward development\|present-forward]] part of development. The thermodynamic synthesis technology of nanotubes is less targeted to advanced APM. That is more on the general material science direction.

	= Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons =		= Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons =

	These models are definitely nice and fascinating to look at.		These models are definitely nice and fascinating to look at. <br>
	So one might be inclined to think that they'd be a nice selling point.		So one might be inclined to think that they'd be a nice selling point. <br>

	The catch is many scientist and material-science engineers get them in their wrong throat and misunderstand them as misunderstanding of basis physics. For some good but the wrong reasons. <br>		The catch is many scientist and material-science engineers get them in their wrong throat and misunderstand them as misunderstanding of basis physics. For some good but the wrong reasons. <br>

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2023-07-21T16:40:49Z

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	* [[Theoretical overhang]]		* [[Theoretical overhang]]
			* [[Present-forward Future-backward overlap]]

Apm: added related section and link to page: Theoretical overhang

2021-03-12T18:44:54Z

added related section and link to page: Theoretical overhang

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	one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>		one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>
	More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]		More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]

			== Related ==

			* [[Theoretical overhang]]

Apm: /* Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built */

2021-03-12T16:54:25Z

Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built

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	As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules		As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules
	there is no point in designing parts for (and the whole of) complexly interlinking systems		there is no point in designing parts for (and the whole of) complexly interlinking systems
	like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in the [[~~Nanofactory~~ concept demonstration video]].		like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in the [[nanofactory concept demonstration video]].

	* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and		* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and

Apm: added section on nanotubes as crystolecules and their accessibility

2021-03-12T16:53:58Z

added section on nanotubes as crystolecules and their accessibility

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	As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules		As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules
	there is no point in designing parts for (and the whole of) complexly interlinking systems		there is no point in designing parts for (and the whole of) complexly interlinking systems
	like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in the [[Nanofactory concept ~~demonstaration~~ video]].		like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in the [[Nanofactory concept demonstration video]].

	* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and		* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and
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	These might be some work that really may become usable in a 1:1 unchanged fashion at some point.		These might be some work that really may become usable in a 1:1 unchanged fashion at some point.

	But much more than that these pretty ~~colorful~~ images and animation clips are useful for publicity. Or so one might thing.		But much more than that these pretty colourful images and animation clips are useful for publicity. Or so one might thing.

	=== Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons ===		'''Crystolecules akin structures that ARE already experimentally accessible:'''

			Note that carbon nanotubes which have some similarities to crystolecules are already experimentally accesssible.
			Measurements of friction can and have been taken giving some clue and expermental evidence to the amazing properties that we can expect. Friction measurements on nanotubes of course already belong to the [[present-forward development\|present-forward]] part of development. The thermodynamic synthesis technology of nanotubes is less targeted to advanced APM. That is more on the general material science direction.

			= Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons =

	These models are definitely nice and fascinating to look at.		These models are definitely nice and fascinating to look at.
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	In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead		In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead
	one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds ~~adn~~ thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>		one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds and thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>
	More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]		More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]

Apm: basic version of the page

2021-03-12T16:44:36Z

basic version of the page

New page

Up: [[Bridging the gaps]] <br>
Complementary: [[Present-forward development]]

This page is about a portion of highly targeted development towards [[gemstone metamaterial technology]].

Here counting to "future-backward development" will be everything that is not yet accessible by physical experiment but that may already make sense to think about and work on.

= Modelling as of yet experimentally inaccessible forms of mechanosynthesis =

* modelling mechanosynthesis of diamond and similar carbon structures and
* designing a closed loop material processing circuit.
There has been a paper created on this. See [[Tooltip chemistry]].

Maybe: Modelling silicon [[mechanosynthesis]] with better tips that are not yet experimentally accessible.

= Exploratory engineering (EE) =

See main article: [[Exploratory engineering]]
A basis for a sensible far term target has been determined by [[Nanosytems]]
but there surely is plenty of space for refinement.

== Modelling of Crystolecules that cannot yet be built ==

Related articles:
* [[Crystolecule]] and
* [[Design of crystolecules]]

Currently these should mainly be seen in the context of explotarory engineering.
That is: Designing some explicit models of these at opposite ends of the design space
can give some cornerstones to the patch in design space that contains feasible solutions.

As long as we have no experimental accessibility to the creation of crystolecules
there is no point in designing parts for (and the whole of) complexly interlinking systems
like e.g. recreating in atomic detail what is shown conceptually in the [[Nanofactory concept demonstaration video]].

* Auto generating various kinds of strained shell bearings for differently tight fits and
* especially designing highly uncritical purely structural spacing [[Kaehler brackets]]
These might be some work that really may become usable in a 1:1 unchanged fashion at some point.

But much more than that these pretty colorful images and animation clips are useful for publicity. Or so one might thing.

=== Design of crystolecules for publicity reasons ===

These models are definitely nice and fascinating to look at.
So one might be inclined to think that they'd be a nice selling point.

The catch is many scientist and material-science engineers get them in their wrong throat and misunderstand them as misunderstanding of basis physics. For some good but the wrong reasons. <br>
See: [[Macroscale style machinery at the nanoscale]].

In particular there is a [[stroboscopic illusion in crystolecule animations]] that can lead
one to misjudge the operation speeds to be near thermal speeds adn thus grossly misjudge the levels of friction. <br>
More here: [[Friction in gem-gum technology]]