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		<title>Apm: /* Related */ * Entropic energy</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Related: &lt;/span&gt; * &lt;a href=&quot;/w/index.php?title=Entropic_energy&quot; title=&quot;Entropic energy&quot;&gt;Entropic energy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Apm: Apm moved page Entropic enegry storage to Entropic energy storage without leaving a redirect: enegry =&gt; energy - letter-swap-fix</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Apm moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/w/index.php?title=Entropic_enegry_storage&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Entropic enegry storage (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Entropic enegry storage&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/w/index.php?title=Entropic_energy_storage&quot; title=&quot;Entropic energy storage&quot;&gt;Entropic energy storage&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: enegry =&amp;gt; energy - letter-swap-fix&lt;/p&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;basic page&lt;/p&gt;
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Energy can be stored not only in bond energy but also in a systems internal order. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That is so long the system is not near 0K. As storage capacity is linearly proportional to temperature.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Simplified image ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Charging ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Here&amp;#039;s a simplified mental image:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One can imagine a bunch of loose chaotic chain molecules with ends attached to two opposing coplanar plates. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
This represents an empty uncharged battery. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Now stretching the bundle of chain molecules by pulling apart the two plates &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
leaves the chain molecules less room and options to wobble and wiggle around. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
They become more parallel and more orderly. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The degrees of the freedom of the atoms on the chains get reduced. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The equipartitioning theorem says that (as first approximation) every degree of freedome gets 1/2 kT of energy. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Now the energy from the removed degrees of freedom ads to the remaining ones leacing one with more than 1/2 kT per DOF. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That means to get bac to 1/2kT per DOF the pemperature needs to rise. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Very loosly visually speaking it&amp;#039;s kind of like squeezing energy out of the bundle of chain molecules by stretching it out.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Aking to squeezing water from a towel.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is not heat from friction. In principle (if the heat is kept from dissipating) the stretching work done is fully recuperable. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Otherwise it is not fully but still partially recuperable. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Entropic elastic restoring force ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is an entropic force trying to pull the chain molecule bundle back to shorter lengths and more disorder. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(More DOFs, more microstates, arrow of time, …) &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Decharging ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reversely recuperating energy from the entropic foces &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
letting the etretched bundle of chain molecules unstretch and perform useful work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
more DOFs free up and temperature drops. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Like an endoergic chemical reaction. Just that it performs useful work too here. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Again visually speaking: Decharging the entropic battery soaks in heat energy cooling it down.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The towel soaking in water and unwinding in that wild visual analogy. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Though for forces the analogy breaks down.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
{{wikitodo|add a bit of math}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Non chain like storages ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(De)Mixing enthalpy … &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{wikitodo|elaborate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== PROs / advantages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Potentially higher inherent safety. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When the energy storage is damaged by accident, disaster, or malicious intent &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
rather than exploding, catching fire, or getting very hot &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
the energy storage does the opposite and gets cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== CONs / disadvantages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The maximal energy storage density is likely more limited &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
compared to chemical energy storage solutions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
– Energy capacity is dependent on ambient temerature. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
– Single molecular chains might be a good choice but are limited in thermal resillience (and radiadion hardness) &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Related ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Entropomechanical converter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropic_force Entropic force]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_chain#Entropic_elasticity_of_an_ideal_chain Entropic elasticity of an ideal chain] &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; math on chain stretching&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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