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	Means for AP manufacturing may have a stabilizing effect on advanced civilization since using them is akin to growing plants from abundant seeds.		Means for AP manufacturing may have a stabilizing effect on advanced civilization since using them is akin to growing plants from abundant seeds.
	Reaching this level of technological capability may mean reaching something like a "game checkpoint".		Reaching this level of technological capability may mean reaching something like a "game checkpoint".
	~~Even~~ if there's no central power source and no infrastructure basic necessities as well as all sorts of luxury goods can be made.		In case of global catastrophe or personal distress, even if there's no central power source and no infrastructure,
			basic necessities as well as all sorts of luxury goods can be made.

	== Fragility of today's technology base ==		== Fragility of today's technology base ==

Apm: lots of updates

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lots of updates

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	[[File:Sonic checkpoint reached doodle by AlSanya-d5m90pr.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|The point when technology becomes advanced enough to reach a self stabilizing self sustaining state where it becomes as stable or even more stable than life on earth is today. - Image by AlSanya (RetroRobosan)]]		[[File:Sonic checkpoint reached doodle by AlSanya-d5m90pr.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|The point when technology becomes advanced enough to reach a self stabilizing self sustaining state where it becomes as stable or even more stable than life on earth is today. - Image by AlSanya (RetroRobosan)]]

	Means for AP manufacturing have a stabilizing effect on advanced civilization since using them is akin to growing plants from abundant seeds.		Means for AP manufacturing may have a stabilizing effect on advanced civilization since using them is akin to growing plants from abundant seeds.
	Reaching this level of capability ~~means~~ reaching something like a "game checkpoint".		Reaching this level of technological capability may mean reaching something like a "game checkpoint".
	Even if there's no central power source and no infrastructure basic necessities as well as all sorts of luxury goods can be made.		Even if there's no central power source and no infrastructure basic necessities as well as all sorts of luxury goods can be made.

	In (2013) there was (and still is) a situation where electric power supply was highly centralized.		== Fragility of today's technology base ==

			In (2013 … 2024 … and counting) there was (and still is) a situation where electric power supply was highly centralized.
	If there would have been a catastrophe of some sort stopping all systems from working at once there would have been great problems to get it all up and running again		If there would have been a catastrophe of some sort stopping all systems from working at once there would have been great problems to get it all up and running again
	since the systems depended on themselves mutually.		since the systems depended on themselves mutually.
	One could say the whole electric system was in a dynamic state of "alive" always threatening to "die".		One could say the whole electric system was in a dynamic state of "alive" always threatening to "die".
			(Systems with the least outages potentially being the most fragile as they never test out full outages.)

	Relativating a bit: With advanced APM technology a new dynamically globally alive system on a higher level will very likely emerge,		Relativating a bit: With advanced APM technology a new dynamically globally alive system on a higher level will very likely emerge,
	but the fallback baseline will be much higher ~~averting~~ humanitarian disaster in case of system breakdown.		but the fallback baseline will be much higher. Averting humanitarian disaster in case of system breakdown.
	There would be a sharp drop in standard of living though.		There would be a sharp drop in standard of living though.

	APM technology in contrast can lie dormant for eons without loosing functionality. <br>		== Durability of a gemstone based APM technology base ==
	The main threatening factor for the continued availability of AP systems (not the [[human overpopulation\|size of the human population]] - this is an entirely different matter) is '''destruction from within''' due to bad too much centralized [[general software issues\|software architecture]].
			'''Durability during dormancy:''' <br>
			Gemstone based APM technology in contrast can lie [[dormant for eons without loosing functionality]]. <br>
			The main threatening factor for the continued availability of AP systems (not the [[human overpopulation\|size of the human population]] - this is an entirely different matter) is '''destruction from within''' due to bad too much centralized [[general software issues\|software architecture]]. Governance of remote software updates.
	Really bad regressions seem plausible but total annihilation rather unlikely.		Really bad regressions seem plausible but total annihilation rather unlikely.

	{{speculativity warning}}<br>		{{speculativity warning}}<br>
	Further remaining threats reside in the far future and are rather exotic like:		Further remaining threats to a gemstone based APM technology base that reside in the far future and are rather exotic like:
	* global radiation exposure from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_burst gamma bursts].		* global radiation exposure from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_burst gamma bursts].
	* planetary collisions		* planetary collisions
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	{{speculativity warning}}<br>		{{speculativity warning}}<br>
	There's the fundamentally unavoidable risk for any information processing existences of ~~walking~~ into long winded dead end in software development		There's the fundamentally unavoidable risk for any information processing existences ("civilizations") of
	where it is unclear how far "civilization" ~~needs~~ to trace back before continuing ~~onwards~~ becomes possible.		choosing a path that leads into a long winded dead end in advanced (partly hardware generating) software development
	~~This is strongly~~ tied to:		where it is unclear how far that "civilization" will need to trace back before being able to continuing onward becomes possible again.
			Some concern software developers may resonate with.
			Going tho the highly philosophical end this seems tied to:
	* Gödels incompleteness or equivalently		* Gödels incompleteness or equivalently
	* the halting problem(s) or equivalently		* the halting problem(s) or equivalently
	* Chaitins construction or equivalently		* Chaitins construction or equivalently
	* the presence of an transfinite number of axioms that are true for no reason		* the presence of an transfinite number of axioms that are true for no reason
			One can't proof in advance that one won't end up in a long winded but terrible dead end. <br>
			Some cosmic horror existential dread here.

	{{todo\|Discuss the importance of avoiding the loss of a bootstrapping path. Documentation of the historically followed attainment path and identification of possible shortcuts (difficult) such that bootstrapping could be repeated in the quickest possible way.}}		{{todo\|Discuss the importance of avoiding the loss of a bootstrapping path. Documentation of the historically followed attainment path and identification of possible shortcuts (difficult) such that bootstrapping could be repeated in the quickest possible way.}}
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	* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]		* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]
	* [[Ultra long term technology stability]] – [[Gem-gum rainforest world]]		* [[Ultra long term technology stability]] – [[Gem-gum rainforest world]]
			* [[Robustness of gemstone based APM technology compared to robustness of biological nanotechnology aka life]]

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	{{todo\|Discuss the importance of avoiding the loss of a bootstrapping path. Documentation of the historically followed attainment path and identification of possible shortcuts (difficult) such that bootstrapping could be repeated in the quickest possible way.}}		{{todo\|Discuss the importance of avoiding the loss of a bootstrapping path. Documentation of the historically followed attainment path and identification of possible shortcuts (difficult) such that bootstrapping could be repeated in the quickest possible way.}}

			== Keywords ==

			* Checkpoint, disaster relief, civilization respawner chip, …

	== Related ==		== Related ==

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	If you are instead looking for backup of this wiki see page: [[Support]]		'''If you are instead looking for backup of this wiki see page: [[Support]]'''

	[[Category:Technology level III]]		[[Category:Technology level III]]
	[[Category:Information]]		[[Category:Information]]
	[[Category:Philosophy]]		[[Category:Philosophy]]

Apm: link to wiki backup

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link to wiki backup

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	* [[Ultra long term technology stability]] – [[Gem-gum rainforest world]]		* [[Ultra long term technology stability]] – [[Gem-gum rainforest world]]

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			If you are instead looking for backup of this wiki see page: [[Support]]

	[[Category:Technology level III]]		[[Category:Technology level III]]
	[[Category:Information]]		[[Category:Information]]
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Apm: /* Related / added Ultra long term technology stability – Gem-gum rainforest world

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	* [[Desert scenario]]		* [[Desert scenario]]
	* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]		* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]
			* [[Ultra long term technology stability]] – [[Gem-gum rainforest world]]

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	since the systems depended on themselves mutually.		since the systems depended on themselves mutually.
	One could say the whole electric system was in a dynamic state of "alive" always threatening to "die".		One could say the whole electric system was in a dynamic state of "alive" always threatening to "die".

			Relativating a bit: With advanced APM technology a new dynamically globally alive system on a higher level will very likely emerge,
			but the fallback baseline will be much higher averting humanitarian disaster in case of system breakdown.
			There would be a sharp drop in standard of living though.

	APM technology in contrast can lie dormant for eons without loosing functionality. <br>		APM technology in contrast can lie dormant for eons without loosing functionality. <br>

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	== Related ==		== Related ==

			* [[Desert scenario]]
	* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]		* pros and cons of extraordinary corrosion resistances - [[Recycling]]

Apm: consistentified grammar

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consistentified grammar

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	{{speculativity warning}}<br>		{{speculativity warning}}<br>
	There's the fundamentally unavoidable risk for any information processing existences ~~that~~ of walking into long winded dead end in software development		There's the fundamentally unavoidable risk for any information processing existences of walking into long winded dead end in software development
	where it is unclear how far "civilization" needs to trace back before continuing onwards becomes possible.		where it is unclear how far "civilization" needs to trace back before continuing onwards becomes possible.
	This is strongly ~~ties~~ to:		This is strongly tied to:
	* Gödels incompleteness or equivalently		* Gödels incompleteness or equivalently
	* the halting problem(s) or equivalently		* the halting problem(s) or equivalently