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			[[File:Infosheet myth-proposed-outdated.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|Infosheet illustrating confusion of actually proposed [[productive nanosystems]] with nanobots in horror fiction (grey goo). And ould outdated self suggesting bioanlogous ideas. <br>{{wikitodo\|Fix translation error molekular to molecular.}} <br> Realted: [[Grey goo horror fable]]. <br>Related: [[Gem-gum factory]]. <br>Related: [[Molecular assemblers as advanced productive nanosystem (outdated)]].]]

	Up: [[productive nanosystem]]s in general (including early precurser systems)<br>		Up: [[productive nanosystem]]s in general (including early precurser systems)<br>
	The focus here are productive nanosystems that are part of [[In-vacuum gem-gum technology]] and produce more of it.<br>		The focus here are productive nanosystems that are part of [[In-vacuum gem-gum technology]] and produce more of it.<br>

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	=== Thorough analysis ===		=== Thorough analysis ===

	'''For a detailed discussion of visit ~~the page about~~ [[~~advanced~~ nanofactory design]]~~.'''~~		'''For a detailed discussion of visit:'''
			* [[Advanced nanofactory design]]
			* [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]] <small>in particular [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]</small>

	To find out how a nanofactory will look like more accurately one must start with the systems internal sub-product logistics (mechanosynthesis and assembly) since:		To find out how a nanofactory will look like more accurately one must start with the systems internal sub-product logistics (mechanosynthesis and assembly) since:

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	Read more about assemblers on the [[molecular assembler\|molecular assembler main page]].		Read more about assemblers on the [[molecular assembler\|molecular assembler main page]].

	= Gemstone metamaterial on-chip nanofactories =		= Gemstone metamaterial on-chip nanofactories (targeted) =

	* The concept animation video: [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]		* The concept animation video: [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]

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	= Gemstone metamaterial on-chip nanofactories =		= Gemstone metamaterial on-chip nanofactories =

			* The concept animation video: [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]
	* Main page: [[Gemstone metamaterial on chip factory]]		* Main page: [[Gemstone metamaterial on chip factory]]
	* Implementation details: [[Design of gem-gum on-chip factories]]		* Implementation details: [[Design of gem-gum on-chip factories]]
	* The concept animation video: [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]

	Two approaches to diamondoid nanofactories must be clearly discerned since the design objectives are very different.		Two approaches to diamondoid nanofactories must be clearly discerned since the design objectives are very different.

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	* Main page: [[Gemstone metamaterial on chip factory]]		* Main page: [[Gemstone metamaterial on chip factory]]
	* Implementation details: [[Design of gem-gum on-chip factories]]		* Implementation details: [[Design of gem-gum on-chip factories]]
			* The concept animation video: [[Productive Nanosystems From molecules to superproducts]]

	Two approaches to diamondoid nanofactories must be clearly discerned since the design objectives are very different.		Two approaches to diamondoid nanofactories must be clearly discerned since the design objectives are very different.
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	* Ones that are an attractive and sensible far term goal for the incremental technology path. e.g. the one sketched in [[Nanosystems]].		* Ones that are an attractive and sensible far term goal for the incremental technology path. e.g. the one sketched in [[Nanosystems]].
	* Ones that are designed to be easily buildable as easy as possible with a [[direct path]] approach. e.g. Chris phoenix nanofactory design skech		* Ones that are designed to be easily buildable as easy as possible with a [[direct path]] approach. e.g. Chris phoenix nanofactory design skech

			See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]] – treating both<br>

	== The attractive but distant aim point ==		== The attractive but distant aim point ==

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Diamondoid molecular assemblers

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	* One may say that the concepts of nanofactories and assemblers are not sharply separable i.e. that they are merely the endpoints of a design continuum. To meet in the middle: The smallest possible grains of nanofactories (without the optional exponential assembly layers) somehow dispersed on a lattice in a volume could be looked at as a static configuration of quite big assemblers.		* One may say that the concepts of nanofactories and assemblers are not sharply separable i.e. that they are merely the endpoints of a design continuum. To meet in the middle: The smallest possible grains of nanofactories (without the optional exponential assembly layers) somehow dispersed on a lattice in a volume could be looked at as a static configuration of quite big assemblers.

	= Diamondoid molecular assemblers =		= Diamondoid molecular assemblers (outdated) =

	[[File:self-replicating-assembler-unit.png\|thumb\|Artistic depiction of a mobile assembler unit capable of self replication. An outdated idea.]]		[[File:self-replicating-assembler-unit.png\|thumb\|Artistic depiction of a mobile assembler unit capable of self replication. An outdated idea.]]

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	[[File:Infosheet myth-proposed-outdated.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|Infosheet illustrating confusion of actually proposed [[productive nanosystems]] with nanobots in horror fiction (grey goo). And ~~ould~~ outdated self suggesting ~~bioanlogous~~ ideas. <br>{{wikitodo\|Fix translation error molekular to molecular.}} <br> ~~Realted~~: [[Grey goo horror fable]]. <br>Related: [[Gem-gum factory]]. <br>Related: [[Molecular assemblers as advanced productive nanosystem (outdated)]].]]		[[File:Infosheet myth-proposed-outdated.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|Infosheet illustrating confusion of actually proposed [[productive nanosystems]] with nanobots in horror fiction (grey goo). And old outdated self suggesting bio-anlogous ideas. <br>{{wikitodo\|Fix translation error molekular to molecular.}} <br> Related: [[Grey goo horror fable]]. <br>Related: [[Gem-gum factory]]. <br>Related: [[Molecular assemblers as advanced productive nanosystem (outdated)]].]]

	Up: [[productive nanosystem]]s in general (including early ~~precurser~~ systems)<br>		Up: [[productive nanosystem]]s in general (including early precursor systems)<br>
	The focus here ~~are~~ productive nanosystems that are part of [[In-vacuum gem-gum technology]] and produce more of it.<br>		The focus here is on productive nanosystems that are part of [[In-vacuum gem-gum technology]] and produce more of it.<br>
	For information about how to get to these systems please visit the main page about [[bootstrapping]].		For information about how to get to these systems please visit the main page about [[bootstrapping]].

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	[[file:technology-path-sketched.png\|thumb\|Growing specialization of nanosystems with incremental technology improvement leads more to nanofactories than assemblers.]]		[[file:technology-path-sketched.png\|thumb\|Growing specialization of nanosystems with incremental technology improvement leads more to nanofactories than assemblers.]]

	In the beginning of APM research only ''[[#Assemblers\|(molecular) assemblers]]'' ~~where~~ considered as a means for reaching the capability to produce macroscopic amounts of a [[further improvement at technology level III\|product]] or block of [[diamondoid metamaterial\|material]].<br>		In the beginning of APM research only ''[[#Assemblers\|(molecular) assemblers]]'' were considered as a means for reaching the capability to produce macroscopic amounts of a [[further improvement at technology level III\|product]] or block of [[diamondoid metamaterial\|material]].<br>
	Here at the level of [[in-vacuum gem-gum technology]] it turns out that advanced [[#Advanced nanofactories\|nanofactories]] are more balanced and efficient than assembler systems.		Here, at the level of [[in-vacuum gem-gum technology]] it turns out that advanced [[#Advanced nanofactories\|nanofactories]] are more balanced and efficient than assembler systems.
	At [[technology level I]] the border between minimal assemblers and rudimentary nanofactories is more blurred. A rudimentary nanofactory might be ~~buildabel~~ with exponential assembly instead of [[self replication]] but simplified two dimensional assembler linkages/mechanisms might work too. <br>		At [[technology level I]] the border between minimal assemblers and rudimentary nanofactories is more blurred. A rudimentary nanofactory might be buildable with exponential assembly instead of [[self replication]] but simplified two-dimensional assembler linkages/mechanisms might work too. <br>
	On this wiki the term "[[productive nanosystem]]" is used as an umbrella term for both ideas.		On this wiki the term "[[productive nanosystem]]" is used as an umbrella term for both ideas.

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	That is after they replicated to a sufficiently large number they could start produce useful goods.		That is after they replicated to a sufficiently large number they could start produce useful goods.
	'''Assemblers are very hard to build directly and not an attractive aim point since they are very inefficient.'''		'''Assemblers are very hard to build directly and not an attractive aim point since they are very inefficient.'''
	On a different note assemblers spawned the [[grey goo meme]] that latched on the overloaded and fuzzy term "nanotechnology" that sooner had become a major money source for non atomically precise research in the nanocosm. The result was a conflict leading to ~~discredization~~ cut of funding and censorship of everything related to APM. A development [[openness\|not in the interest of society]].		On a different note assemblers spawned the [[grey goo meme]] that latched on the overloaded and fuzzy term "nanotechnology" that sooner had become a major money source for non atomically precise research in the nanocosm. The result was a conflict leading to discrediting, cut of funding, and censorship of everything related to APM. A development [[openness\|not in the interest of society]].

	An assembler could be thought of a very compact self contained (and probably in some way mobile) [[nanofactory]] with crippled [[exponential assembly]] and way too big [[mechanosynthesis core]]s.		An assembler could be thought of a very compact self contained (and probably in some way mobile) [[nanofactory]] with crippled [[exponential assembly]] and way too big [[mechanosynthesis core]]s.
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	* Ones that are an attractive and sensible far term goal for the incremental technology path. e.g. the one sketched in [[Nanosystems]].		* Ones that are an attractive and sensible far term goal for the incremental technology path. e.g. the one sketched in [[Nanosystems]].
	* Ones that are designed to be easily buildable as easy as possible with a [[direct path]] approach. e.g. Chris phoenix nanofactory design ~~skech~~		* Ones that are designed to be easily buildable as easy as possible with a [[direct path]] approach. e.g. Chris phoenix nanofactory design sketch

	See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]] – treating both<br>		See: [[Discussion of proposed nanofactory designs]] – treating both<br>
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	How will a Nanofactory look like? <br>		How will a Nanofactory look like? <br>
	~~Lets~~ start with the '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5192g1gQg official productive nanosystem video] - [http://e-drexler.com/a/080415NanoFactory94MB.mov (high quality 94MB)]'''. <br>		Let's start with the '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5192g1gQg official productive nanosystem video] - [http://e-drexler.com/a/080415NanoFactory94MB.mov (high quality 94MB)]'''. <br>
	If this looks like a fantasy to you be aware that this is a desired aim point and certainly not the first thing one wants to build from scratch.		If this looks like a fantasy to you be aware that this is a desired aim point and certainly not the first thing one wants to build from scratch.
	Also beside the sorting and atom deposition which are already quite concrete the further up steps serve more as a conception of what goes where rather than a construction plan.		Also beside the sorting and atom deposition which are already quite concrete the further up steps serve more as a conception of what goes where rather than a construction plan.
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	=== What is shown in the official productive nanosystems video: ===		=== What is shown in the official productive nanosystems video: ===

	Correspondence to [[assembly levels]]:		Correspondence to [[assembly levels]]:
	* Assembly level 0 and I are grouped together and represented by the "molecular mills" step.		* Assembly level 0 and I are grouped together and represented by the "molecular mills" step.
	* Assembly level II is represented by the "block assemblers" step.		* Assembly level II is represented by the "block assemblers" step.
	* Assembly level III is represented by the "product assemblers" step.		* Assembly level III is represented by the "product assemblers" step.
	* Assembly level IV is not integrated since ~~its optional~~.~~omitted All~~ [[assembly levels]] except IV		* Assembly level IV is not integrated since it's optionally omitted.
			Shown are all [[assembly levels]] except optional IV and above.

	How much is conception only:		How much is conception only:
	* In the "molecular mills" step The notion of "next stage" marks the point from 0a to 0b (filtering and tooltip preparation). It's quite concrete.		* In the "molecular mills" step The notion of "next stage" marks the point from 0a to 0b (filtering and tooltip preparation). It's quite concrete.
	* The tooltip preparation process is depicted simplified {{todo\|check in-how-far}}. For the actually more complex [[mechanosynthesis\|~~preparations~~ cycles]] the tooltips (with tipcones) for [[mechanosynthesis]] can be merged with carriage structures that can be steered by rail switches.		* The tooltip preparation process is depicted simplified {{todo\|check in-how-far}}. For the actually more complex [[mechanosynthesis\|preparation cycles]] the tooltips (with tipcones) for [[mechanosynthesis]] can be merged with carriage structures that can be steered by rail switches.
	* The shown reaction "which has been analyzed using advanced quantum chemistry techniques" is not RS6. {{Todo\|find out which it is supposed to be}}.		* The shown reaction "which has been analyzed using advanced quantum chemistry techniques" is not RS6. {{Todo\|find out which it is supposed to be}}.
	* Due to the assumption of limited to no steerability of the molecular mills a steerable [[crystolecule routing layer\|routing system]] is needed for shuffling the produced [[diamondoid molecular elements\|DMEs]] in the right order. This routing system is conceptually shown between the "molecular mills" and the "block assemblers" step and in the video is called "transfer mechanism".		* Due to the assumption of limited to no steerability of the molecular mills a steerable [[crystolecule routing layer\|routing system]] is needed for shuffling the produced [[diamondoid molecular elements\|DMEs]] in the right order. This routing system is conceptually shown between the "molecular mills" and the "block assemblers" step and in the video is called "transfer mechanism".
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	To find out how a nanofactory will look like more accurately one must start with the systems internal sub-product logistics (mechanosynthesis and assembly) since:		To find out how a nanofactory will look like more accurately one must start with the systems internal sub-product logistics (mechanosynthesis and assembly) since:

	Nanosystems 14.4.1 ''"... the details of supporting systems ... are peripheral to the central issues of molecular manufacturing ... ... a reasonable estimate of overall system volume can be be had by summing the volumes of the assembly workspaces without describing a particulate three-dimensional layout. ..."''* [[* [[Atom placement frequency]]		Nanosystems 14.4.1 ''"... the details of supporting systems ... are peripheral to the central issues of molecular manufacturing ... ... a reasonable estimate of overall system volume can be had by summing the volumes of the assembly workspaces without describing a particulate three-dimensional layout. ..."''* [[* [[Atom placement frequency]]


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	*Diamondoid Molecular machine elements DMMEs		*Diamondoid Molecular machine elements DMMEs
	*Diamondoid Molecular [[structural elements for nanofactories\|structural elements]] DMSEs		*Diamondoid Molecular [[structural elements for nanofactories\|structural elements]] DMSEs
	~~Furthere~~ details can be found [[diamondoid molecular elements\|diamondoid molecular elements page]].		Further details can be found [[diamondoid molecular elements\|diamondoid molecular elements page]].

	Certain standard sets like ''housing components'' or a ''minimal set of compatible DMMEs'' are needed.		Certain standard sets like ''housing components'' or a ''minimal set of compatible DMMEs'' are needed.
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	= Data processing =		= Data processing =

	Computation must be done reversibly since deleting data ~~dissipated~~ energy.		Computation must be done reversibly since deleting data dissipates energy.
	More about this can be found on the "[[reversible data processing]]" page.		More about this can be found on the "[[reversible data processing]]" page.
	For AP electronic computer technology go to: [[non mechanical technology path]]		For AP electronic computer technology go to: [[non mechanical technology path]]
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	* Top layer: external computer		* Top layer: external computer
	* Intermediate layer: integrated nanoelectronics units		* Intermediate layer: integrated nanoelectronics units
	* Bottom layer: nanomechanic computation units (~~out of~~ size reasons)		* Bottom layer: nanomechanic computation units (for size reasons)
	* Core: Semi ~~Hard~~-cored conveyor belt systems (like molecular mills) & Manipulators (no active logic here)		* Core: Semi hard-cored conveyor belt systems (like molecular mills) & Manipulators (no active logic here)

	= Vacuum =		= Vacuum =